10 years of MCU Week 1 Discussion: Iron Man & Iron Man 2

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Starting off the first week of our Cap-Ironman 10 Years of MCU celebrations is a whole lot of Tony Stark! This week, we’ll be watching and discussing Iron Man and Iron Man 2. This is where is all started for the MCU, a whole decade ago when the MCU was just a far off dream.


A few ideas to kick off the discussion:

• What what your favourite moment in Iron Man and Iron Man 2?


• What aspects of Tony’s character stand out to you?


• How has Tony changed from the beginning of Iron Man to the end of Iron Man 2?


• Anything else you want to comment on!

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Iron Man and Iron Man 2 were released after the conclusion of Marvel 616's Civil War and before the introduction of a canon MCU Steve Rogers, and the Steve/Tony fandom at the time had the creative freedom to characterize Steve and establish his relationship with Tony in interesting ways.

If there are any works from 2008~2010 that you remember, or have enjoyed in hindsight, comment on this thread with your favorite fanworks!

"Did you notice that...? Remember when...?"

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Now's the perfect time to rewatch Iron Man and Iron Man 2 before the premiere of Infinity War at the end of the month! Come share your thoughts as you're watching the films: point out things you've never noticed before, rehash why certain scenes resonated with you, or just declare your love for the films and Tony Stark!

Iron Man (2004) Script

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krusca shared this the other day on Twitter, which I thought some people here might be interested in seeing if they haven't already!

Link to the original Iron Man (2004) script

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One of the moments that sticks out every time I watch Iron Man is that brief second we Tony pitch forward and drops his head onto Rhosey's shoulder. I love it so much because everything about his body language says that he knows he's safe, he doesn't have to fight, because someone he trusts with his life is watching over him. It's important to me that a person so armoured both physically and emotionally has this moment of vulnerability. I love seeing tough as nails badass Tony get to have that kind of security.

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Every time I rewatch Iron Man 1, I think that Obadiah Stane is seriously underrated as an MCU villain. Jeff Bridges does such a great job of making him all cheery and avuncular yet totally sinister at the same time. The scene where he takes Tony's arc reactor is one of the most chilling in the MCU, IMO.

And even before that, when he's still pretending to be nice and friendly, he comes across as really creepy with Tony, always standing inside Tony's personal space and being all handsy (like when Tony shows him the arc reactor and Obadiah goes to button Tony's shirt), and Tony always looks a bit uncomfortable with it but never objects or moves away. Both RDJ and Jeff Bridges convey so much of Obie and Tony's relationship with nothing but body language. It's really well done.

[impala_chick]

Confession time - when I first watched this film, I didn't understand Tony. I didn't understand his motivations. How could he not see the plight of all of the people his weapons had affected until he himself was in the crossfire? But Obadiah was so perfectly manipulative - he had planned his whole life around the takeover, and had controlled Tony so well without tipping him off, and I really started to think about how people like that groom their victims for such long periods of time that the person being manipulated doesn't even realize what's happening. Tony really is a victim of abuse, not just from his father.

And then Iron Man 2 really put the pieces together for me, and I saw Tony as someone re-inventing himself, finding his own destiny without being tied to any other person, just his intellect and his inventions, and I could really appreciate him after that. He still could fall back on his public persona, but in IM2 he could really respect himself and morph into "Ironman" with or without the suit.

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I just watched IM1 and there are so many things I'm just picking up on this rewatch.

In my mind, due to all of Obie's physical intimidation, I always imagined Obie as bigger. But he's actually not as huge as my memory had made him out to be. Regardless, there were definite moments when I felt creeped out by him. What a great villain he was.

I forgot that whole scene where there was a video predicting Stark Industries tanking and making a huge joke out of it. I kind of forgot how much media attention there was on Tony and his company.

I love Tony talking to his bots in fic and I forgot how much he does it in this movie. He talked to them so much! To DUM-E the most!

OBADIAH PLAYS THE PIANO! I know there's fan theories of Tony learning to play from his mum. But what if he learned from Obie? Another pseudo father-son moment. I'm basically making Obie's betrayal even angstier to me. :P

Tony testing his Iron Man suit is even funnier and funner than I remember.

Tony's shoulder to waist to hip ratio is pretty damn amazing. There's this shot from behind when he's in a tank top...wowwwza.

There's a scene where Tony talks about how clear his purpose is now... that was probably the moment where Tony has the most clarity in all the movies. Later, the issues and PTSD all start kicking in. :(

Tony does seem to have a flight suit! He's distinctly wearing something flight-suit-like in one of his suit-up scenes, but it's mostly visible on his legs.

You know, I think IM1 really wasn't afraid to be more disturbing and awful as compared to later movies. Like the scenes in the cave, I remembered the waterboarding torture, but I forgot how awful the other things were, like Tony's surgery and the car battery thing, Yinsen being threatened with torture... Yinsen was such a great character. He was definitely a pivotal character in Tony's life.

I think in all the MCU deaths so far, Yinsen's was the one that moved me the most. Maybe IW will change that!