re: The video - news is news, and Captain America's death made news. It's made to chew it up and spit it out, and it's up to the individual fan, upon reading Civil War to decide if Captain America's values didn't mesh in the new world not of his own making or not. It's only when Rogers dies you truly get a measure of what's lost, and how dark the Marvel Universe has gotten.
So the fans that dismissed his death then, they should have done a follow up six months later, and say, "How's that workin' out for yah?", because it's only hit me at the sort of shoes that Captain America filled, and how Bucky, as much as he tries, isn't near the sort of being that Captain America is, and as such, shows how much poorer America is when Conservative ideologue takes over, and the 'traditional' values of America that gets crushed, to be replaced by a sort of nothingness that Stark and co has to deal with.
A bit of background: I've been reading comics since the 80's - back when The New Avengers were The Mighty Avengers and they had the West Coast, East Coast groups, so I 'knew' Captain America through my readings of The Mighty Avengers and Captain America's odd appearances in Iron Man. Captain America (to me) was a bit of a cipher, a man with a good heart, living up to the ideals of what America was, and it wasn't until The Civil War when he brushed up against Stark, that's when it first occurred to me what Rogers was.
There's a telling scene in Civil War when Steve Rogers (in the suit) and Tony Stark are talking, and Steve actually lays it out, when he says that back in his day, you had principles, and you stuck to 'em, none of this psychobabble that finessed words until the words were empty, meant nothing, where nuance replaced stark black and white of decisions, and how Tony's fluency in that part of the modern world defined him - and as such, severed their friendship.
The fact that Steve Rogers chose not to compromise, not to 'hang' in order to find a place in this world of New America, actually says loads about his character, a sort of moral touchstone in a Marvel Universe where the characters (apart from Spiderman - in a way) tended to falter, or have none. Steve had to die, as a symbol of America in its haste to retreat into self protectionism, loses its bravery and spirit as a result.
Personally, I'm interested to see where this goes. I have no doubt that Steve Rogers will be back, as long as his coming back isn't a cheap shot or a cop out.
But all this to say... *whew*. I sympathize with you (and will read fanfic!) and your rancour towards Steve Roger's death. Yes, he deserves better, but America tends to flog and bruise people who march to the beat of their own drum. Steve died not compromising and being true to his beliefs. He died a hero's death, in that he never deviated from his moral compass.
Hmmm... not to defend the video, but...
So the fans that dismissed his death then, they should have done a follow up six months later, and say, "How's that workin' out for yah?", because it's only hit me at the sort of shoes that Captain America filled, and how Bucky, as much as he tries, isn't near the sort of being that Captain America is, and as such, shows how much poorer America is when Conservative ideologue takes over, and the 'traditional' values of America that gets crushed, to be replaced by a sort of nothingness that Stark and co has to deal with.
A bit of background: I've been reading comics since the 80's - back when The New Avengers were The Mighty Avengers and they had the West Coast, East Coast groups, so I 'knew' Captain America through my readings of The Mighty Avengers and Captain America's odd appearances in Iron Man. Captain America (to me) was a bit of a cipher, a man with a good heart, living up to the ideals of what America was, and it wasn't until The Civil War when he brushed up against Stark, that's when it first occurred to me what Rogers was.
There's a telling scene in Civil War when Steve Rogers (in the suit) and Tony Stark are talking, and Steve actually lays it out, when he says that back in his day, you had principles, and you stuck to 'em, none of this psychobabble that finessed words until the words were empty, meant nothing, where nuance replaced stark black and white of decisions, and how Tony's fluency in that part of the modern world defined him - and as such, severed their friendship.
The fact that Steve Rogers chose not to compromise, not to 'hang' in order to find a place in this world of New America, actually says loads about his character, a sort of moral touchstone in a Marvel Universe where the characters (apart from Spiderman - in a way) tended to falter, or have none. Steve had to die, as a symbol of America in its haste to retreat into self protectionism, loses its bravery and spirit as a result.
Personally, I'm interested to see where this goes. I have no doubt that Steve Rogers will be back, as long as his coming back isn't a cheap shot or a cop out.
But all this to say... *whew*. I sympathize with you (and will read fanfic!) and your rancour towards Steve Roger's death. Yes, he deserves better, but America tends to flog and bruise people who march to the beat of their own drum. Steve died not compromising and being true to his beliefs. He died a hero's death, in that he never deviated from his moral compass.
For that, I will thank the Marvel writers.