There's a sort of self self-congratulatory smugness that makes me livid, and that sort of 'look at me!' vibe going on in the Civil War arc really took the bloom off that rose. But I found CW compelling, and I thought it was a good shake up of MU. It could have been better, but whatever. It brought me back into comics, so there.
Yeah, Ed Brubacker is making me take a second look at Captain America, the comic, and I'm thinking of following it until Steve comes back. I think he will... but I'd want it to be good, and am patient in doing so.
And to me, that's what Steve stood for-- he understood that the application of principles could be complicated and nuanced, but he never questioned the principles themselves.
This. This x1000.
Steve understood the power he had, although he might not have been able to articulate it. Tony understood it too (when he castigated Rogers wearing the uniform and undermining the SHRA because he could), hence him trying to get Steve on side. But Tony, as much as he understands the power of such imagery, he couldn't honestly understand why Steve was against it.
Steve Rogers, the guy who lived through the US corralling Japanese Americans into camps circa Pearl Harbour, the man who fought the Nazis - Steve knows first hand about social engineering, how the SHRA was like, a whiff of eugenics. Steve Rogers - blonde haired, blue eyed, Aryan wet dream - was aware of his privilege (white, blonde haired guy) and used his privilege and image for a cause that he believed in, and that really made Rogers real to me.
It also shows how insulated Tony is: his intellect, his industrial might and his wealth gives him a distance where he thinks that society can be engineered. On that tip, I can understand why people think of Stark as a fascist. I don't, I just think Stark is removed from it all, and it didn't really occur to him what he had done until Steve got killed. So when Stark says at the end of The Confession that another victory as such would 'undo' him, Stark is right. Social engineering, that sort of ideologue that the SHRA represents, has literally destroyed M U's America. Tony's adherence to the future, but neglecting the human equivalent has wounded him severely - he's lost a good friend (two, if you count Thor, WTF?), a shield brother, and the respect of the superhero community. Stark did what all other villians couldn't do - he destroyed Superheroes.
That's deep. Too deep. This is why I can't help but to feel sorry for Stark, and hope that he doesn't go gently into the dark night of the soul.
Queseda and Millar make me want to hurl
Yeah, Ed Brubacker is making me take a second look at Captain America, the comic, and I'm thinking of following it until Steve comes back. I think he will... but I'd want it to be good, and am patient in doing so.
And to me, that's what Steve stood for-- he understood that the application of principles could be complicated and nuanced, but he never questioned the principles themselves.
This. This x1000.
Steve understood the power he had, although he might not have been able to articulate it. Tony understood it too (when he castigated Rogers wearing the uniform and undermining the SHRA because he could), hence him trying to get Steve on side. But Tony, as much as he understands the power of such imagery, he couldn't honestly understand why Steve was against it.
Steve Rogers, the guy who lived through the US corralling Japanese Americans into camps circa Pearl Harbour, the man who fought the Nazis - Steve knows first hand about social engineering, how the SHRA was like, a whiff of eugenics. Steve Rogers - blonde haired, blue eyed, Aryan wet dream - was aware of his privilege (white, blonde haired guy) and used his privilege and image for a cause that he believed in, and that really made Rogers real to me.
It also shows how insulated Tony is: his intellect, his industrial might and his wealth gives him a distance where he thinks that society can be engineered. On that tip, I can understand why people think of Stark as a fascist. I don't, I just think Stark is removed from it all, and it didn't really occur to him what he had done until Steve got killed. So when Stark says at the end of The Confession that another victory as such would 'undo' him, Stark is right. Social engineering, that sort of ideologue that the SHRA represents, has literally destroyed M U's America. Tony's adherence to the future, but neglecting the human equivalent has wounded him severely - he's lost a good friend (two, if you count Thor, WTF?), a shield brother, and the respect of the superhero community. Stark did what all other villians couldn't do - he destroyed Superheroes.
That's deep. Too deep. This is why I can't help but to feel sorry for Stark, and hope that he doesn't go gently into the dark night of the soul.
Right, tl; dr. Sorry about the epistle.