cap_ironman | Crazy!Tony time.

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Crazy!Tony time.

Since I've been back-tracking in Marvel Iron Man/Avengers comics, I've come to a conclusion: Tony is completely fucking crazy!

Also, since I have a thing for the crazies, I'm writing a fic, and I would like your opinion.

To me it appears Tony has some kind of dissociative order. For the purpose of the fic, I'm using a combination of MDD/Schizo/PTSD/Depression. Yes, I've very mean to Tony.

My questiion to you is, if Tony had other personalities, who do you think they would be? What would they be like?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Camel.

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omg great minds think a like -- I'm doing the something like this to him, too XD We're so mean.

I think he was develop someone who could replace Steve for him and generally be his voice of reason. All in all, it would be the sort of embodiment of everything Tony is not.

But what exactly are you diagnosing Tony with? Schizophrenia or DID? the PTSD and depression could be caused by either of the mentioned disorders. And schizophrenia isn't a dissociative disorder. Plus, I can't see Tony as having multiple personalities with DID because he doesn't fit any of the criteria. He doesn't really fit for schizophrenia either. Depression? yes. PTSD? absolutely. Substance abuse? for sure. Tony seems like he could fit into the category of a late developing anxiety disorder or a personality disorder.

Again, I'm not trying to be mean or anything! I'm just trying to help make the story concept fit a bit better with the character and the disorders that's all!

Yes! Someone writing crazy!Tony! XD I have been secretly pining for this for some time, but didn't want to write it myself because that's pretty much what I've done in the last few fandoms I've been in O.o;;
I do enjoy crushing the hopes and dreams of the characters I love...

I'll be interested to see what you come up with. Good luck with it! :D

Oh yes, I could buy him developing some serious mental issues by now.

The major thing that's always struck me about Tony is that his coping mechanisms keep going haywire. The alcohol abuse, the thrill-seeking, the distancing himself from his friends, the occasional bouts of near-pathological lying and secrecy... When he picks a coping mechanism, he invariably pushes it too far.

He's always had a bit of dissociation going with Iron Man. He always knew about it, but he seemed to keep his equilibrium best when he kept Tony and Iron Man separate. I imagine it gave him a way to escape from being himself sometimes (he's never really liked being Tony very much), and also I suspect that it let him keep Iron Man separate as something noble and heroic about himself when Tony Stark seemed too dirty and useless.

But if you take that kind of persona separation far enough, you can get the multiple personalities. As for who: there's Iron Man, of course--tough, noble, often able to say things Tony couldn't. There's Tony the cool, confident man of the world, and Tony the man underneath, who's frequently depressed, desperate, lonely, and self-loathing. There might also be the sexy socialite. Personas in MPD are always generated according to need. You're faced with a situation you feel unequipped to handle, and you either leap into a persona you already have that can handle it, or you generate a new one appropriate to the situation. They become ingrained due to habit. The more frequently you resort to it, the more it takes on a life of its own.

PTSD? Totally. And I'd bet it wouldn't be the first time. Depression, yes, I think we've seen that in the comic. Not sure what you mean by MDD, though. It's an abbreviation used for a number of things. But if by MDD, you mean manic-depressive, that's an either/or thing with depression, and I don't think he's ever displayed anything resembling a manic episode.

As for schizophrenia, I wouldn't think so. On the other hand, he has demonstrated a certain amount of paranoia (Armor Wars), and he has experienced psychotic breaks before, even if they were always externally triggered--during The Crossing, and I think he inflicted one on himself due to alcohol abuse at one point. Extremis has also done weird things to his brain, so hard to say what that could result in.

I suddenly have an idea of a fic with Tony + Multiple Personality Disorder, caused by repression (there are thousands of reasons for repression in him, after all) and splitting, and it all bursting on him and somehow turning around into a fluffy ending. Damn you. XD

Please don't forget to mention the guilt complex. :\ I know it's minor, but it's something he'd harp on. Guilt, I mean. He does, canonically, anyway, but no one mentions it....and if bringing up PTSD and depression (all canon too), then the guilt thing should get a mention

He went from a rich sheltered playboy with the world at his fingertip to a captive in a cave. Add Survivor's Guilt.

Parental issues, emotional neglect. Unstable childhood...did that guy have any childhood friends other than Tiberius Stone? Ty who went ebil, and if Ty and Tony's parents were friends, that's the circle they were raised in. The more industrialized version of the Hiltons. Hmmm...I wish I could remember the essay I read a while back on Paris Hilton that's actually kinda SAD. That lady is a wreck and her behaviour is that of the anti-role-model...but she is the product of her upbringing.

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Please don't take it as mean!

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I think it's PTSD