Holy shit! This is Good News

[kijikun.livejournal.com]

CNN: Captain America, thought dead, comes back to life.

Some quotes:

Rising from the dead after being killed off over two years ago, Captain America is being resurrected by Marvel Comics.

Though the circumstances of his return are being closely shielded, the star-spangled superhero returns July 1 in a five-comic-book series, "Captain America Reborn."

Many felt Captain America's death in 2007 was symbolic of the time. And his return now?

"The tenor of the world now is when we're at a point where we want to believe in heroes. Someone who can lead the way," said Breevort. "It just feels like the right time."

And what of Captain America's sidekick, Bucky Barnes? After taking up the shield and mission of Captain America for the past year, it'll be time to relinquish the mantle. Is there room for two sentinels of liberty? Stay tuned

Let's hope CNN is right.

Comments

[mercy-slays.livejournal.com]

I want to say about time but I also want to say... it feels too soon.

I don't know. I love the idea of Cap coming back and hopefully fixing the Civil War/Secret Invasion/Dark Reign fallout but I also kind of wish they give Bucky another year or two (or three) before bringing him back. Granted, Cap's not coming back now (just next month...?) but, it would be nice for Bucky to have the mantle for a little while more (maybe five real world years?).

[kijikun.livejournal.com]

Honestly? Bucky has had the mantel for how long now? He needs to find out who he is without Steve's shadow over him. I'd read that book.

Also the movie is 2011, Steve Rogers was going to be Captain America again by that point no matter what. Marvel isn't that stupid and Joe Q wants to keep his job.

[mercy-slays.livejournal.com]

That true, though I'm still uncertain about this revival, probably because I'm just skeptic of revivals in general for all comics. However they do it, Steve coming back and Bucky's reaction to that and the aftermath of said revival... I'll read that too.

For some odd reason I thought it was 2010 but I was probably thinking of the Iron Man sequel due to all the news about the filming going on. You're right about Steve needing to be revived by the time of his film debuting in theaters, though I rather he was revived at the time of the Captain America film, than this year.

[kijikun.livejournal.com]

I doubt he'll come right back and pick up the cowl. This is Steve we're talking about, he's not going to feel he can just pick up the cowl and go on like nothing happened. Bucky will probably wear the cowl for another year or so.

I doubt Bru is going to let Bucky just disappear, he'll probably get his own book.

Just don't harsh our squees okay? *G*

[mercy-slays.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, now that you phrase it that way, it would be interesting to see how the cowl is passed back. Hopefully really gradually and with good development on both sides.

Lol, I'm not trying to be harsh about the squee! I'm actually happy that there's "solid" plans for Steve's revival. Oh god what happens when we get Revived!Steve and Going-Braindead/Is-Braindead!Tony? The angst!

[kijikun.livejournal.com]

Steve will probably yell at everyone for letting Tony take the brunt of everything and letting him pretty much kill himself AGAIN to save his friends that hate him.

[mercy-slays.livejournal.com]

Angst-fest and guilt-fest for all. Probably knock a few heads in the process too.

[geuna.livejournal.com]

It's... it's almost too sudden. I mean, July 1st? As in THIS July? That's only a few weeks away!

I'm sure Cap would take one look at Norman Osborn and think, "Oh crap, so this is what Tony was talking about..."

[cygna-hime.livejournal.com]

I'm witholding my squee and glee, mostly on principle: this sounds like exactly what I want and think should happen to achieve the best story and meta-story, but Marvel likes to jerk me around and not allow me nice things, therefore as soon as I become too invested the story will tank and/or prove to be just another chain-jerk. (That said, WANT WANT WANT OMG.)

[truthiness-aura.livejournal.com]

I doubt Bru is going to let Bucky just disappear, he'll probably get his own book.

Yeah, I'm hoping they treat Bucky well; while Steve is the only person I can see as Cap, Bucky really deserves some love too. From what little I know of his backstory, he's got possibilities like whoa. Dam Russkies.

[posyvanilla.livejournal.com]

I just love that CNN is reporting this. :) Also, I did figure they'd bring Steve back before his movie premiered, but I honestly thought they'd take a little longer than this (although I am definitely not complaining). I will so be picking this up in July.

[tavella.livejournal.com]

If, and it's a big if, they intend to clean up the authoritarian mess that is the current MU, Steve needs to be back before, both in terms of good story-telling and for the long-term health of the character. Considering how badly they messed him up during Civil War -- "my idea of how to fight fascist behavior and illegal attacks by government agencies: run around tying up criminals!" not to mention having him burst into tears and give up at the end -- you simply can't have him come back and everyone say "well, we had some problems with Osborne but we tidied up everything while you were gone, and fixed the SHRA. Guess we didn't need you, o 'conscience of the MU'"

I know a lot of people are upset at how they've screwed up Tony, and I agree, but the thing about Tony is... he screws up. It doesn't ruin the character in the long term; he can go evil, he can erase people's memories, he can have alcoholic breakdowns, because the heart of the character is the duality the incredibly powerful suit and the flawed man inside, between the guy who has everything mentally and financially yet screws himself over so often. So he screws up, and then struggles to fix what he screwed up, and help the people he endangered; that's one of the ur-Tony plotlines.

While for Steve, one of his basic story engines is the clash between his ideals and the world as it is. You have the confrontation, you have the rejection, you have Steve question himself and withdraw for a while to think and study the world, and you have the return, renewed. Sometimes it's because he's rejected by the people: this happened with the Committee storyline in the 80s, when John Walker took over the title, this happened when he was framed for treason and exiled from the country in the 90s, it happened with the SHRA.

Sometimes it is simply the clash between the world as it is now and the world he grew up in, as in the 60s when he struggled with finding his place in a world he was decades out of. You can see it in miniature in some of the very first CA stories, where he is unfrozen and confused goes out trying to explore this new world, wondering if there is a place for Captain America. You can see it in his very first arc with Tony; where Tony admires his past, but thinks he's useless for real superhero work, and Steve thinks he may be right. Only for both of them to realize it's not true when Steve saves Tony from a giant robot.

We've had the Rejection; we've had the Retreat (Steve giving up and then dying); the Renewal and the Return come next, and for them to work the problem that drove him away still has to exist, so that he can overcome it.

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

I'm going with the too soon Brigade. Bucky is ONLY just now getting a grip on being Cap, Marvel U is kinda crappy right now anyway and yeah . . . I'm skeptical of resurrections. I worry. I worry a lot.

But right now, more than anything. I feel yanked around. I'm pissed at Joe Q and Brubaker flouncing around saying they new this was coming and it had been planned and it completes an arc.

WTF. two years ago you morons were yapping about how this would NOT be a medial stunt, would NOT be a superman thing and now you are saying that has you told us it was not fake, you knew you were lying

two faced media whores GRRRR
I mean not that I did not expect it, but I seriously have lost respect for Brubaker over this. If he did have this shit planned he shouldn't have acted like he was some brilliant edgy writer, because WHATEVER.

*sigh*

I am happy to get Steve back though. Don't get me wrong.
I just . . . feel cheated.


And I don't want Bucky to be side-charactered again. *pats his head* he's cute. I'm very happy I can go buy his comics in a few weeks and in my protest of not buying Cap until steve was returned.
Because I want to own that Namor team up like yesterday ^^;;;;

Oh and if Brubaker kills Bucky to bring Steve back, my LJ will explode in anger.

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

So long as they don't make him an anti-hero or like Jack Monroe the second . . .

he should bing back Toro and Toro and Bucky can do black ops shit for Nick in between make out sessions

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

You think?
Given Marvel and their need to hate on Tony, I bet you a soda at a movie theater that Steve his angry at Tony and says or does mean things.

I don't want this, but I expect it :(

[kijikun.livejournal.com]

I'll take you up on that.

Also you need to see UP, its a movie that would make both Ult and 616 Steve cry.

[melisus.livejournal.com]

TOO SOON.

Sure he's been dead for two years in the real world but uh... barely ANYTHING has happened in his own comic. Way to give Bucky the shaft, Marvel.

[kijikun.livejournal.com]

I doubt Steve will be back in the cowl for a while. Maybe by the time of the movie, but Bucky'll be in the cowl for at least another year or two. Bru loves Bucky so I don't expect him to give up his favorite character - if Bucky doesn't get his own book in 2011 I'll be rather pissed myself.

[melisus.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but to bring Steve back when Bucky is still only beginning to come to terms with things just completely screws over the character. I feel that to bring Steve back already when the people in charge said that this death was meant to last (at least for a good several years) just cheapens its impact into any old comic book death. And killing off Captain America SHOULDN'T be like any old comic book death because he's CAPTAIN AMERICA, you know?

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

HEAR HEAR!!
Dan it if he HAS TO BE DEAD then it should mean something and be longer in Marvel time! It has been ONE FREAKIN YEAR in marvel time *flail*

I feel so lied too and used *pout*

I mean mah gawd (yes I'm so erked I will use my Texas accent), why not just start a WWII comic for a year get some stories out so the character is in touch with his roots again for new fans and such, and the movie, AND THEN bring him back.

I just I don't know, I knw he'd come back eventually but *meh*
I don't know I guess I'll wait and see.

I need him to be out of costume for at least a year though damn it!

Ohh I want him back with no powers!!!

[melisus.livejournal.com]

I'm still banking on the fact that it's going to turn out to be 1950's Cap.

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

No way, Jynx linked me to several other interviews and if it's 50's Cap I'll be even madder because then they just flat out lied through there teeth. They said many many things that rather unambiguously mean the real Steve from the 40's not 50'sSteve or Timetravel Steve or anything else *sigh*

Granted Ron Moore swore up and Down that OOHHHH NOOOO Kara Thrace really was dead and would enver come back, so I mean whatever, but I don't want Brubaker to have to end up as high on my "go die in a fire and get the fuck out of my genre you useless media whoring hack" list as Ron Moore ^^;;;;

. . . Joe Quesada is kinda already there, so it's too late for him. Maybe I'll jsut blame this all on him. I mean it's his fault Winter Soldier had non functional hair and peter and j's marriage got negated so Peter could be immature single dude again so I'm sure that means he's all kinds of evil ^^;;;;;

[melisus.livejournal.com]

I will NEVER forgive Quesada for what he did to Peter and MJ. They've been my OTP since I was EIGHT!

Other than that... I dunno... I'm just going to go back to Star Trek WHERE EVERYTHING IS SUNSHINE AND LENS FLARES AND HAPPY SHIT LIKE THAT.

Why are comics such a frustrating fandom?

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

*LOL* You missed the Trek Fandom when Ron Moore killed Kirk and thought this made him edgy and brilliant and made of awesome.

Heh or when Babylon 5 came out *L* I can not reconcile Trek with Happy fandom =P
But I am proud of the lack of wank I'm running into on the new series. I thought it was gonna be Battlestar take two, but not so much in my corner of the multiverse.

Comics are frustrating because they are 90% male hormones run amuck and 10% intelligence?

[melisus.livejournal.com]

Haha, yeah. Fortunately, all the nasty bits I was technically around for I had sort of "grown out of" the fandom.

Probably the male hormones running it, yeah...