ext_8615 ([identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2008-04-28 10:14 am

casual conversation topics for Steve and Tony

This seems like a silly thing to post about, but I swear, it's one of my biggest tripping points when I'm writing certain stories. And I'm not writing a story currently that requires this, but I've been pondering it lately and thought it might be fun for people to speculate on. And hey, if it turns out to be a jumping off point for discussion, so much the better!

Anyway, here's the question I've been pondering...

If Steve and Tony were just hanging out, talking casually (i.e., not about the latest threat or any other Avengers business), what would they talk about?

Sports? If so, which ones? Books? What kind? I can't really see Tony reading much fiction... Movies? Throwaway canon comments suggest that Tony, at least, doesn't go to many. I'm certain they'd sometimes talk about politics and world events, but I think those discussions could get a little heavy for casual conversation. Would they have philosophical debates? About what ideas? I doubt either of them has much time for hobbies, but can you think of one that either of them might like enough to squeeze in a few minutes for here and there? (Well, aside from Steve's art and Tony's tinkering, which are obvious ones.) Would they gossip about their fellow superheros?

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[personal profile] swingandswirl 2008-04-28 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my favourite things about the Steve/Tony dynamic is that Tony has the chance to introduce Steve to practically a whole new world- so many of the defining cultural things that define our society- Elvis, the Beatles, LoTR (there was this fantastic moment in this one fic, I forget which, where Steve found out that Tolkien had written a sequel to the Hobbit...) or even Star Wars. And Tony might not go to that many movies because he can just see them at home, in his own personal movie theater. *g*

And then there's the fact that Tony is such a ridonculous GEEK- I have no doubt he and Steve would argue endlessly over classic cars versus modern ones, snail mail versus the internet, the whole nine yards. I can't see Steve as a technophobe, though, more that he's convinced the old ways are... I don't know, less soulless, somehow?

Gossip? I can see Steve needing to know about the other heroes, especially the Avengers, because they're his family. Tony? Just loves gossip.

You know, for a non-Marvel fan, I actually spend an insane amount of time thinking about this pairing...

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-04-28 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
They definitely talk sports. Tony's favourite sport is apparently soccer. I can't recall what Steve's is, though I think baseball is a safe bet. I'm convinced that SI has season tickets and a corporate box for everything. Steve likes to sit with the great unwashed and they alternate dragging each other to the corporate/democratic sports experience. At least, that's how it goes in my head. ;)

Other things they talk about:

- motorcycles, aircraft, cars, basically everything with an engine (that Tony didn't build) - they both appreciate the beauty of a well-designed machine, especially when they go fast
- history - they totally wank about who their favourite historical characters are
- ancient armaments, and strategy - "Napoleon was so totally the greatest general of all time." "OMG NOE WAYZ!1"
- art (not Steve's) - Steve loves art, full stop; Tony is a collector
- music - Steve likes swing, big band, jazz; Tony likes rock, metal and little classical
- The Great Coffee Debate - how much is too much?
- philosophy - I need to brush up on my Steve canon. iirc he doesn't have an intense classical education, but being deeply philosophical by nature, he's have read all the great dead white dudes. Since being defrosted he's read some of the great lights of the past century. He's read way more critical socialist, feminist and postmodern stuff than has Tony, who has more of a business-school background. (imo, of course)

Would they gossip about their fellow superheros?

Kind of? They'd definitely discuss them, but I'm not sure if they'd gossip together. It seems more like something they'd do with their other friends. Clint for example, probably knows everything that goes down in the mansion, and makes a special effort to share with Steve the kinds of things he just. doesn't. want. to know about.
Edited 2008-04-28 19:59 (UTC)
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CSI and Grey's Anatomy apparantly ;-)

[personal profile] liliaeth 2008-04-28 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)

[identity profile] strokeof-genie.livejournal.com 2008-04-28 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I have this idea of them bored one night when there was no mission, and Tony's flipping through the channels. My friends and I make up dialogue for them when we watch TV. We talk about their differing philosophy on life, death and medicine when we watch House. We talk about violence and how sometimes it might be needed if when we watch Jerry Springer. We avoid MTV, and are surprisingly fond of the Military and Speed channels, as well as the Discovery and History channels. We decided they watched Ninja Warrior when they could, too. And Top Gear, just because Tony would laugh and be horrified whenever they light a car on fire (or anything, ever, and it happens once an episode usually), and Steve would love both the show and Tony's reactions.

What I've been trying to figure out is how Tony introduces Steve to porn. Or when. My friends seem to think it was pretty quickly, but I insist that Tony's not that shallow and he understands what is important, and how much of a culture-shock that would be. But you know he'd do it eventually. I have this crack-y idea that Tony starts with hetero porn, and Steve, who's been harboring a secret love for Tony, starts angsting because it's reaffirming that Tony's ohsohetero. And then Tony eventually clues in, probably because of Jan (or maybe Logan, because why not?), and then there's angst-reducing sex. And then Tony shows Steve his stash of gay porn.

Wow, I got off-topic.