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So I'm working on a comic for the SteveTony Aluminium Anniversary Anthology, and I'm very excited about it! but I'm here to beg for references.
Because I love Ults and haven't don't enough work on it, I decided to use that as my SA3 universe, and whilst major plot wise and character wise I'm on a good footing, I'm very sketchy when it comes to some areas of actual canon as I've only been able to actually read very little, A lot of my knowledge comes from stunning fic and Wiki plot descriptions.
So, I'd like to ask for a couple things;
1) It seems a bit of a simple thing to ask, but I assume at least some point Tony and Steve end up living in the same place? Like the avengers do in 616. If they do, does anyone have any visual references or places to get them? If any of you have ever tried to find references for comics locations you might know how it can be a bit of a nightmare, and Ults especially can be hell to find. Im looking for both internal and external references if possible, especially surrounding kitchen areas and entrances.
2) If they don't co-habitate, does anyone have similar references for where both Steve and Tony live at any point?
Any other interesting visual references for Ults would also be appreciated! I'd really like to make sure I do this thing justice. Thanks all!
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Anyway I breezed through all the Ults runs I have on hand, so here are a couple of issues to look at! They mostly congregate in the Triskelion (and it's also assumed that they have their own living quarters there in New Ultimates), but I didn't mark those down, since that happens in like, every non-fighting issue HAHA
Ultimates #4 - Steve and Jan walking around his neighborhood
Ultimates #6 - Tony invites Steve and Thor over to his place for dinner
Ultimates 2 #3 - Ultimates hang out at (what I presume to be) Tony's place to watch the trial.
Ultimates 2 #8 - A good look at Steve and Jan's place (much better than Steve's old apartment)
Ultimates 2 #9 - "Tony Stark's Townhouse"
Ultimates 2 #10 - Tony's Townhouse part 2
Ultimates 2 #13 - Tony's Townhouse part 3
(Ultimate Saga - Shows glimpses of Tony's bed and office, and the comics serves as a SparkNotes of everything that happened in Ults 1 and 2?)
Ultimates 3 - Tony's mansion on fifth avenue. It's a short run and I'm pretty sure the mansion makes an appearance in every issue (or about). I think it's implied everyone's shacked up in his mansion during this time, but also...this run sucks HAHA.
Ultimate Comics New Ultimates #1 - Tony and Carol in Tony's quarters at the Triskelion.
Ultimate Avengers vs New Ultimates #4 - Tony's penthouse (the scene where Steve helps him in the bathroom)
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #8 - Thor and Tony hang out at his tower
Hope that helps!
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What kind of sex ed would Tony have received? At home or from schools? I've read a fic or two that mentioned Tony being obsessive about safe sex since in a lot of canon he would have been growing up around the 80s and the midst of the AIDs epidemic.
CW: underaged sex referenced
-Most of my ACTUAL sex education came from sneaking my mother's copies of Our Bodies, Our Selves (which Maria may or may not have owned, but Tony might have gotten an instructive eyeful of at M.I.T.) and Valley of the Horses off the shelf after school. Also, Judy Blume. Eighties kids couldn't avoid Judy Blume, not that we'd have wanted to. A lot of hanging out at the library, for us nerd kids. You could get a LOT of education at the library, providing it had not been skeletonized by Christians. Oh, and Prince songs. "Darling Nikki," "Erotic City," etc.;
-My mother gave me "the" standard book of her social circle, Growing Up, Feeling Good (About Yourself). It had rhyming couplets about wet dreams, but, IIRC, failed to address homo/ bisexuality much (I seem to remember "Try to avoid that, if you can, and be aware that if you have a 'funny' dream or feelings toward someone of the same sex, it actually means you look up to that person and are attracted to what he or she represents in your life," but that may have been a different book. The book I'm referencing was definitely geared toward middle-school and was assumed that no-one was having anything beyond a mild crush at that age. Practically speaking one girl at my summer camp and one girl in my class [and I use the term "girl" advisedly] had gotten pregnant at age twelve. I remember being a little nauseated at how stocked-and-pilloried the girl at my school was--- literal pointing and whispering and people being jerks about the job her mother did of raising her, because her mother was the school librarian and a bit sanctimonious. In retrospect, HULK WANT TO SMASH when I think how not one person asked, "Who the sneg is knocking up sixth-graders?") That's pretty much what we got from our families, books. Sex ed was NOT left up to the servants; our moms always handed us the books. Some young TFK's apparently got lectures about "always assume women are trying to get pregnant and trap you," but those were usually from the sort of families that got parodied as villains in John Hughes films.
-Formal sex ed was mostly senior and junior year. Mine was senior year, which, IIRC, Tony skipped in canon. There were urban legends about teachers using bananas for demonstrating proper condom use, but the only person I knew who had anything like that happen in class was six years younger than I. I kind of think most of Tony's sex ed was likely to have been the incredibly informal sort. ("School of Hard Knocks" joke unsuccessfully suppressed. Sorry.) If he was lucky, one of his first few partners would have gotten hold of The Facts of Love by Alex and Jane Comfort. Otherwise... well, hope he liked Prince. Back in that day, age of consent laws were mostly lip-service, like domestic violence laws: some creepy older dude was hitting on your kid, you made them get married, had your sketchy ex-brother-in-law put 'em in a cast, or you played a round of golf with the judge and made sure he got convicted of something else that would send him to boot camp... and if you were caught engaging in homosexuality underage, you were sent to a mental hospital for first offense and a group home thereafter (homosexuality was still considered to be a "disorder" that came from overbearing mothers :facepalm:).
Edits for clarity, typos, and the surfacing of long-buried memories of dear friends packing for DeSisto.
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I'm thinking about doing a collab project with someone and we talked about playing around with sound effects but beside youtube I wasn't sure where to look.
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