ext_101671 ([identity profile] runenklinge.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2008-06-13 02:58 am

Questions

Hello! I have a few questions and I think that you will probably know the answers 
(I hope this post is ok, but when it is too off-topic, feel free to delete it)

1) Tony´s childhood: 
- Since when does he exactly know Jarvis? Since he was born?

- What exactly is Tony´s school history?
  I read that he was sento to a boarding school at the age of 7, but he met Ty Stone at what I presume is a normal high school. Did he skip classes? When did he graduate?
(Unfortunately I´m not really familiar with the US school system, so help would be appreaciated. I has a bunny with a Ty Stone story, but I don´t know at what age they met or what they possibly could have experienced together)

2) Rhodey´s a cyborg? Since when? What did I  miss?


3) Heart Issues:
I´m a little confused about Tony´s medical history concerning his heart.
First he has a normal heart, then comes the shrapnel and with it the chestplate.
Then medicine caught up with him. Did they remove the shrapnel? 
I somewhere read that he had a synthetic heart at sometime.
There was the time when he faked his death, got cryogenic-frozen...
Did he get a normal heart again ?
Then he gets at least one heart-attack and gets his heart replaced by the Sentient Armor.
Does he get a real heart before Extremis?
And at the end, there´s Extremis itself.

....I´m confused


and for "legality"


I won´t comment on this piece  - your minds will certainly supply you with enough thoughts - I will just wonder which joke will come up, his pose are the "omnipotent lance" joke

[identity profile] smilingskull.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I can help you on the 3rd question (also, I am just as confused about Rhodey. I hadn't even heard about this until you posted that picture, haha! I just knew he was War Machine. If you want a current update, he's off in Connecticut, totally human as far as I know, training recruits for the Initiative Program.).

There's no real medical basis for Tony's heart fixing dealy-o. What happened was the whole shrapnel deal, and he ended up dependent on the chest piece (the whole front piece, the Arc Reactor was made up for the film, I think.) which he has to wear 24/7 and recharge all the time. It's basically like a big pacemaker and keeps his heart regulated.

He then gets the artificial heart (I think they removed the remaining shrapnel when he got the new heart), which, as far as I know, kept him going until that whole mess with his nervous system starting to break down and then getting paralyzed by an ex-girlfriend, but that's a whole 'nother story. That's about when he fakes his death so that he can go fix himself and be un-paralyzed, because he's Tony Freaking Stark and not even paralysis can keep him down. (haha) That whole mess was during the 90's I think, which was one big clusterfuck of badness on Marvel's part across the board, and also brought you the madness that was Teenaged!Tony and more Kang that anyone wanted or needed.

But anyway, back on topic. After that whole mess, Tony starks having heart attacks. Or like, only a few. I forget. But I do know during the Sentient Armor arc, after the Armor kidnaps him he has another heart attack, which leads to the whole "I love you so much I'll give you my own artificial heart to save you, O Creator!" business. So he's all good an dandy again, and I think (I could be wrong) but he goes back to having to charge himself up again for a while. Not sure. I think so though, because the heart is from the Armor, which would need a power-up every so often. I don't remember how that got phased out.

And then the Extremis happens! Basically, Extremis is a bunch of nanobots that are tagged like a virus and rewire parts of the brain, especially the healing part, giving the person enhanced strength, speed, endurance, healing, etc. It also totally re-does the person's whole body on the first injection. This means Tony's got a brand spankin' new heart that's once again organic and totally part of his body. (I figured it also got rid of his poor Alcohol/Cirrhosis laden liver and gave him a pretty, happy new one.) So he's totally whole, totally healed and in the best shape of his life after this point. Plus, he's got the inner most layers of the armor stored in his bones that he can call up at any point, and he gains technopathy, which means he essentially is the armor at this point. It's all rather crazy. And he can talk to computers. And cellphones. And satellites. Anything tech-like.

Anyway, I hope that answered some of your questions! :] Sorry this is so long. D:

(One quick last note: I don't know if we know about Tony's schooling, except that he graduated uber early. If you want a sketch, probably not true and totally made up because Orson Scott Card wrote it sort of history, I'd read Ultimate Iron Man. But that's not the greatest, or the most true (by a long shot) read.)

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Rhodey was recently revealed to be a cyborg in The Initiative. That's all that's been revealed so far.

[identity profile] smilingskull.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously? Jeez, I need to catch up on some stuff, haha!

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I only know this because of [livejournal.com profile] scans_daily. *g* It's going to be an upcoming plot point in Director of SHIELD, so we'll know more in a few months.

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been reading the Intiative and I don't know what's going on there. That said, I might have a better handle on it if I weren't skimming or skipping every page that doesn't contain either Rhodey or Hank Pym.

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a mystery. We're not supposed to know what's going on yet. All will be revealed in time. If I have time later, I'll put up the pages, but it went down like this: Rhodey is fighting KIA. He manifests about a jillion weapons from various parts of his body. KIA pwns Rhodey. The Scarlet Spiders help Rhodey back up and it's revealed DUN DUN DUN that there's something funky and cyborgy going on with him. There's some mention about Director Stark not wanting people to know about it, or possibly Director Stark NOT knowing about. I can't recall.

And that's all we know so far.

[identity profile] seanchai.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Tony was sent off to a very, very preppy New England boarding school at seven, because his father had decided that he was a weak little wuss who needed to be toughened up. No. Really. He graduated, and went to MIT at fifteen, meaning that he skipped three grades at one point or another.

He and Ty met pretty early on, probably by the time Tony was ten or eleven, and went through college together. Ty was in Tony's grade, but was almost certainly at least one to two years older than Tony, since skipping three grades is pretty unusual.

I'd avoid Ultimate Iron Man, because the back story is dramatically different, on both Tony and Ty.

If you need more specific information about that, just ask. For one thing, I think I can dig the pertinent issues up for you, if you want :).

As for Rhodey being a cyborg... I've read most of Iron Man, and I still have no idea where the hell that comes from. Especially since Rhodey's emphatically not a cyborg any more.

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
He was revealed to be a cyborg in The Initative #11.

"NRAMA: Where is Rhodey as a character these days? As you said, you (and Dan Slott) have been handling him in The Initiative recently where he's kinda...part man, part machine now, right?

CG: Yep, as we saw in Avengers: The Initiative #11, Rhodey has become something of a cyborg, under as yet unrevealed circumstances. Obviously this is a huge change in his life, but thus far he seems to be dealing with it by throwing himself into his work as Commander of the Initiative training facility, Camp Hammond. As a practical matter, the bad news is that Rhodey needs his suit to survive. The good news (for humanity, anyway) is that he has more weapons at his command than ever before. The War Machine no longer ends with the suit of armor."

From an interview (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080601-gage-war-marchine.html) that contains spoilers for Secret Invasion and Director of SHIELD.

[identity profile] bethany-cabe.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I think someone told me the whole cyborg!Rhodey thing came about after his time in the Sentinel Squad, but I'm not sure. I can't remember who it was. And hated Sentinel Squad too much to go back and check.

[identity profile] jynx.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I just read this this morning in the back of Iron Man: Director of SHIELD.

Tony was sent to boarding school at 7. Because he found people hard to relate to, he instead decided to be a bookworm and read all the Isaac Asimov and Robert A Heinlein he could get his hands on. He was also big time fascinated by "Le Morte d'Arthur." Eventually grew to admire scientists and explores. He was enrolled in MIT at 15 and menotred by profs Sal Kennedy and Theodore Slaight. He graduated MIT at 19 with a double masters in physics and engineering. Despite being a brilliant inventor, he hated business.

Jarvis was the family butler

[identity profile] jynx.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he really likes the arthurian legends

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Not so coincidentally, so does Steve ^_^.

[identity profile] jynx.livejournal.com 2008-06-14 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
*wiggle* i know~ it makes me grin