ext_16712 ([identity profile] johanirae.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2008-09-29 10:34 pm

Tony: "Must. Save. Steve"

Hiya folks!

Was wondering about something the other day (for a fic I'm making abd because wondering makes me stop thinking about the, ya know, Civil War)...

I read in a couple of fics and stuff saying Tony often sacrifices himself to save Steve. The one comic canon incident I remember is when



electrocuted himself to stop his armour from crushing Cap.


It's really one of the most defining characteristics I can think of Tony, that he both thinks so high of Steve and so little of himself that the idea of sacrificing himself for Steve is no big deal.

Was wondering if there was any other such times for Tony? And any thoughts? :-)

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-09-30 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
BTW, do you need/want a little background on #3 in panda's comment? Because the actual storyline is made of fail and you shouldn't have to suffer through it if you (a) haven't already or (b) aren't a completist. *g*
ymfaery: (crantz:  seal)

[personal profile] ymfaery 2008-09-30 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I know I wouldn't mind some background. ;D

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-10-02 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
The short version:

#3 in panda's comment is the aftermath of the whole The Crossing mess. (Which either leads into or comes out the Heroes Reborn awfulness, I can't remember which.) Tony has been mind controlled by a bad guy into murdering some people and bringing on a big horrible doom. Right at the end he breaks free of the mind control and figures out that he can stop the big evil if he sacrifices his own life. When he suggests this, all the other heroes more or less go, "Okay, you do that" and Cap, despite the terrible things Tony did under the mind control, is all, "No! Tony!" Of course, Tony does it anyway, and dies cradled in Cap's arms.

It's #44 on the slashy moments list, in case you didn't find it there already. *grins*
ymfaery: (shigure watching)

[personal profile] ymfaery 2008-10-02 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I know I read it, but I'm not sure the scan link(s) was working at the time since I don't recall them. And wow, Vision looks like either a bodybuilder or he took some of Cap's Super Soldier serum. O_o;;

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-10-02 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
And wow, Vision looks like either a bodybuilder or he took some of Cap's Super Soldier serum. O_o;;

Scarily, pretty much everyone male looks like that in 90's comics. It was the era of Liefeld, after all.
ymfaery: (ADVWP:  Viento)

[personal profile] ymfaery 2008-10-02 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Ew, Liefeld. I wondered if that was his style. :P

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-10-02 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I don't think this specific issue was drawn by Liefeld (I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think so), but sadly the entire era in comics art was heavily influenced by it.