God, watching that made me feel pissed. For so, so many reasons (I'm sorry but this comment is likely to be a rant). First of all, I can't believe those people call themselves fans of Captain America. Hell, it wouldn't shock me if they weren't really fans of Cap, but of other comics/characters and only had second hand experience with him. I mean, I look around on this and other various LJ communities, and I have NEVER heard anyone being that nonchalant and uncaring about his character. 'People don't want Nice Guys anymore?' Are they kidding?! I have no problem with conflicted, complicated "angsty" characters when they're well done, but honestly, since when did nice start to equal boring and angsty/dark start to equal automatically interesting?? A lot of the people I know LIKE the nice guys! They balance things out! gah...
And Quesada's comments... I'd understand the whole 'I don't want it to be random deaths and rebirths for the hell of it' sentiment normally... Except that's what his death kinda was. I don't think it was 'meaningless' per say (if only because of how much it effected the people who read the comic, and mostly that because Cap's never really died before) but it certainly wasn't as meaningful in the broader sense as he made it out to be! I think him coming back would be MUCH more meaningful than his actual death, especially given the events of Thor #11 (which actually supplies the basis for at least three different methods of bringing him back I can think of off the top of my head that'll work).
I think what really pissed me off the most was the attitude of the news casters... They barely touched on the character, they portrayed him purely as a propaganda tool and "old fashioned" superhero, with little or no talk about what the character was actually like. They barely even mentioned his real name! Was he originally a propaganda character? Of course, just like many, many others who are *gasp* still around and considered quite relevant! So why is he being singled out? Scratch that, it's not too hard to tell; politics, drama, blah blah blah. And there is so, so much more to Steve than that! Gah... I can't even explain it properly.
God, that video is like exactly what BlueJediGhost!Cap was complaining about, people using him for their agendas and such... They kept trying to imply throughout the whole thing that the 'death' of the character who represented American Idealism stood for the death of said Idealism today... This is why I get my news online, I don't get the annoying-ass attitudes and depressing overview that comes with live newscasters...
Uh...
Wow. That kinda went on for a bit. Sorry 'bout that ^^; But yeah, the summary is that I don't think you're overreacting, and I completely sympathize.
On a final note, I read some scans of the new BuckyPretendingToBeCap comics and... Wow. I didn't expect it to feel so... wrong. I hadn't bothered to actually read any before and didn't realize how much it would make me squirm. Not that I didn't think it'd bother me, but I didn't expect it to do so to the extent it does... No, Bucky is not Captain America. He really just isn't.
BTW, when exactly was this video made? It was right after Cap's death, right?
You are NOT alone on this...
First of all, I can't believe those people call themselves fans of Captain America. Hell, it wouldn't shock me if they weren't really fans of Cap, but of other comics/characters and only had second hand experience with him. I mean, I look around on this and other various LJ communities, and I have NEVER heard anyone being that nonchalant and uncaring about his character. 'People don't want Nice Guys anymore?' Are they kidding?! I have no problem with conflicted, complicated "angsty" characters when they're well done, but honestly, since when did nice start to equal boring and angsty/dark start to equal automatically interesting?? A lot of the people I know LIKE the nice guys! They balance things out! gah...
And Quesada's comments... I'd understand the whole 'I don't want it to be random deaths and rebirths for the hell of it' sentiment normally... Except that's what his death kinda was. I don't think it was 'meaningless' per say (if only because of how much it effected the people who read the comic, and mostly that because Cap's never really died before) but it certainly wasn't as meaningful in the broader sense as he made it out to be! I think him coming back would be MUCH more meaningful than his actual death, especially given the events of Thor #11 (which actually supplies the basis for at least three different methods of bringing him back I can think of off the top of my head that'll work).
I think what really pissed me off the most was the attitude of the news casters... They barely touched on the character, they portrayed him purely as a propaganda tool and "old fashioned" superhero, with little or no talk about what the character was actually like. They barely even mentioned his real name! Was he originally a propaganda character? Of course, just like many, many others who are *gasp* still around and considered quite relevant! So why is he being singled out? Scratch that, it's not too hard to tell; politics, drama, blah blah blah. And there is so, so much more to Steve than that! Gah... I can't even explain it properly.
God, that video is like exactly what BlueJediGhost!Cap was complaining about, people using him for their agendas and such... They kept trying to imply throughout the whole thing that the 'death' of the character who represented American Idealism stood for the death of said Idealism today... This is why I get my news online, I don't get the annoying-ass attitudes and depressing overview that comes with live newscasters...
Uh...
Wow. That kinda went on for a bit. Sorry 'bout that ^^; But yeah, the summary is that I don't think you're overreacting, and I completely sympathize.
On a final note, I read some scans of the new BuckyPretendingToBeCap comics and... Wow. I didn't expect it to feel so... wrong. I hadn't bothered to actually read any before and didn't realize how much it would make me squirm. Not that I didn't think it'd bother me, but I didn't expect it to do so to the extent it does... No, Bucky is not Captain America. He really just isn't.
BTW, when exactly was this video made? It was right after Cap's death, right?