The Last Rites of Janet Pym and the dumping on Stark, again

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For those who came late: Pym is back, since his Skrull! Pym form is dead, and Carol (I'm assuming this is Carol because Mockingbird wouldn't know a Scooby what was going on either) fills Pym in on all the madness, and Tony gets dumped on. Again. All you Thor/Pym slashers, quiet in the back, plz. Click on smaller pictures for legibility goodness.

I am NOT posting pictures from IM 8, because art is FUG it is fug. But Tony is getting there.

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Yeah, I'm in two minds about this, 'cause I like the way it conveys Hank's total overwhelmed-ness, and I can totally see him swinging between hysteria and near-catatonia. I just can't work out how he gets to "You killed Janet!" I mean, it's Carol in the car giving him the info on the last three years, and she was pro-Reg with Tony, so if anyone's going to give a fairly even-handed summary of events, it's got to be her, right?

True. Despite Carol's frustrations with Stark at him playing God (she did say something about the world would crucify him eventually in The Ultron Initiative), yeah, she'd be pretty even handed, but one could say that Stark was the one that pushed the SHRA into action, and literally flicked the first domino re: the events of the past two years.

It's just unfortunate that Tony Stark has been the face of all the events for the past two years - he was behind SHRA, the Cap thing wasn't his fault, but happened on his watch, Word War Hulk, etc. It's just unfortunate that he's been the face, so yeah, it's easy to pile blame on him. Even in the face of a sympathetic party (Carol), Tony still comes off as the man behind it all. So... yeah.

Because apparently when you put your life on the line in battle after battle, if anyone gets killed it's *got* to be the result of incompetent leadership, not simply a sad fact of warfare.

Yeah, this. Stark's problem is (was) that he had a hand (indirectly or no) in Captain America's death, and in societies eyes, they aren't thinking about people dying as a result of a Super hero war, they're thinking about the guy who supposedly pulled the trigger.


it still feels so out of character for people who have for years/decades accepted that one day they might not come back from a fight, to be blaming the secret invasion casualties on Tony alone.

Yes and no. Tony Stark doesn't really get that much love in Marvel U, even before Civil War. When Wanda does her mind control, people think that he's gone on the drink, and only Steve believes him. When Tony went rouge in the 90s, people were prepared to believe the worst in him before finding out why. Granted some of his actions in CW and beyond have been dodgy, but Tony has never been afraid to get his hands dirty in a way that might sit wrong with some heroes.

Oy.