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cap_ironman2008-12-18 07:23 pm
jazzypom.livejournal.com) wrote in cap_ironman2008-12-18 07:23 pm
The Last Rites of Janet Pym and the dumping on Stark, again
For those who came late: Pym is back, since his Skrull! Pym form is dead, and Carol (I'm assuming this is Carol because Mockingbird wouldn't know a Scooby what was going on either) fills Pym in on all the madness, and Tony gets dumped on. Again. All you Thor/Pym slashers, quiet in the back, plz. Click on smaller pictures for legibility goodness.
I am NOT posting pictures from IM 8, because art is FUG it is fug. But Tony is getting there.
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So why is the stuff brought up in-universe the stuff he isn't actually culpable for?
I mean, yes, Hank has just had everything from "No more mutants" on forward dropped on him at once, and it makes perfect sense for him to be angry and lashing out, but...he's yelling at *Tony*, who is only responsible for Jan's death if we assume that failure to be omniscient is a valid charge, yet he seems fine with Thor, who actually did kill her. Not that he's guilty or responsible either, but you'd think he'd be at least as good a target. But that would not be consistent with "Everyone Hates Tony
WeekMonthYear".What I would've done with this scene is had Hank blame, not Tony, but everyone. It would be so much more moving for me if he stood up there and said, "How could you?! You let this happen, all of you! You and your stupid, stupid war! You killed her!" That would choke me up, and then I wouldn't feel like I was being forced into considering Tony's guilt or innocence in exclusion of every single other character in 616. And then *everyone* could look guilty, which is how it should be, because everyone is to some degree at fault.
This.
Motto. What with the squabbling, everyone dropped the ball, and weakened themselves to the invading horde. There's enough blame to go around - Thor leaving earth because he 'just wanted to be left alone', Carol going along with Tony's plans like a good little soldier instead of calling him out when she had her doubts (she did have some). The team mates not trusting each other and just not having some communication protocol.
There's enough blame to be going on with.
Y'know, I readily admit that Tony's made some choices and done some things that he may have thought at the time to be good or necessary, but that from our perspective are just wrong. And he should be required to face the consequences (because I approve of stories in which people face the unintended consequences of their actions, and I disapprove of stories where the writers flinch from following through).
Oh yeah, I do like Stark, although he can be a little shit at times. But you can't be the man he is in the business that he does without being a bit of a shark. If you want a woobie, cuddle with Steve or Peter.
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*SLOW BUILDING CLAP*
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I did like Simon's gaping disbelief. It's like he's the only person in the Marvel-verse who doesn't have his irrational hate-on for somebody these days.
I just...LOGIC please! Can we have our superheroes be just a teensy bit rational? Maybe just smart enough to feel like maybe if something bad goes down, they can actually take care of it like the seasoned super-powered hero-types they are? Because lately I'm not seeing it.
And I love how it's all Tony's fault, but everybody is just fine with Reed, who was just as pro-reg and equally influential on the world stage for being the leader of the Fantastic Four. But he figured out how to detect Skrulls, so he's off the hook, I guess.
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