I guess why it doesn't work in this arc is that it just feels out of place for this arc. I mean, I know there's a way he'd change from how he usually is to the way he was in the message, Fraction just didn't really...develop it much.
And Fraction had twelve issues, plus this issue. I know that comics are decompression city nowadays, but apart from the eight panels on scans_daily not much happens in the comic.
Yes, like I told someone in scans_daily, my beef is not with Tony's message from beyond as say, in between arcs there's always been a time when the writers have allowed Tony to breathe and genuflect. Fraction hasn't allowed Tony to do some introspection since The Five Nightmares of Tony Stark arc. It's all old pop culture references and wit, which is... okay when one is on the run and using gallows humour to keep his head up. But erm... in the shadows when thoughts come forward, Tony must think? My beef is that we don't really get Tony's thought processes at all.
I mean, I like Fraction, and have liked his work, so I'm coming from the place of having nothing but good vibes towards Fraction, but when I read the comic, I was like, 'Son, I am disappoint' which is bad. :(
I think why I'm so disappointed is that I have a feeling that when Steve and Thor come back, everyone's going to just want to see them beat the crap out of Tony and call him a douche all the time and that's it.
Quite. To be fair, Cap and Thor do have a right to beat Tony up and call him a douche. But for Thor, he and Tony have ran into each other before, and Tony escaped relatively unharmed. Then, in addition to that, Steve was all, "No Thor, no more blood should be spilt in my name." So yeah, feelings.
But here's the thing, yes, Thor and Cap should be resentful, yes their feelings towards Tony are valid. No, it shouldn't be easy in terms of Tony and his other avengers to get on up and up again, because Tony did dick moves. My only hitch is that people demand that Tony apologise, even though Tony didn't think he did anything wrong.
If they are going to write him as bullish as that, I don't see why they should have him apologising. If you're going to apologise, at least be honest, and heartfelt. Good friendship demands it.
Re: YMMV, but...
And Fraction had twelve issues, plus this issue. I know that comics are decompression city nowadays, but apart from the eight panels on scans_daily not much happens in the comic.
Yes, like I told someone in scans_daily, my beef is not with Tony's message from beyond as say, in between arcs there's always been a time when the writers have allowed Tony to breathe and genuflect. Fraction hasn't allowed Tony to do some introspection since The Five Nightmares of Tony Stark arc. It's all old pop culture references and wit, which is... okay when one is on the run and using gallows humour to keep his head up. But erm... in the shadows when thoughts come forward, Tony must think? My beef is that we don't really get Tony's thought processes at all.
I mean, I like Fraction, and have liked his work, so I'm coming from the place of having nothing but good vibes towards Fraction, but when I read the comic, I was like, 'Son, I am disappoint' which is bad. :(
I think why I'm so disappointed is that I have a feeling that when Steve and Thor come back, everyone's going to just want to see them beat the crap out of Tony and call him a douche all the time and that's it.
Quite. To be fair, Cap and Thor do have a right to beat Tony up and call him a douche. But for Thor, he and Tony have ran into each other before, and Tony escaped relatively unharmed. Then, in addition to that, Steve was all, "No Thor, no more blood should be spilt in my name." So yeah, feelings.
But here's the thing, yes, Thor and Cap should be resentful, yes their feelings towards Tony are valid. No, it shouldn't be easy in terms of Tony and his other avengers to get on up and up again, because Tony did dick moves. My only hitch is that people demand that Tony apologise, even though Tony didn't think he did anything wrong.
If they are going to write him as bullish as that, I don't see why they should have him apologising. If you're going to apologise, at least be honest, and heartfelt. Good friendship demands it.