Cap_Ironman Weekly News, Week Ending 5th April 2010

[valtyr]

Happy Easter, all who celebrate it! This week someone decided to tell cap_ironman they loved us, and we are always at home to gratuitous flattery, so thank you very much. :)

Last week we got a Cap and this week we got a Bucky. But rumour has it Emily Blunt has turned down the role of Cap's girlfriend, which is likely to be Peggy Carter, although could still be Golden Girl. (Not that I'm partial to Golden Girl or anything. I'm just putting it out there. Forlornly.) The article says they're also considering Keira Knightley or Alice Eve for the role; something all these women have in common is that they're British, which suggests that Cap's WWII girlfriend will be British. Which does make sense, considering there were a lot more British women than America out in the combat zones of WWII. It also suggests they might drop the close relationship between Sharon and Peggy, which would make Cap seem a little less, uh... well... creepy. What do you think?



vive_la_yaoi posted some fanart for us.

garrideb posted her fanmix, The Surface He Finds

viperchurros posted some fanart

thelilytriad posted a fanfic, Shiny Leather In The Dark.

savemoony posted to basically make us jealous that Obama signed her comic, and it worked. :)

googlehead84 posted to alert us to the Stark Expo.

marinarusalka posted to tell us that movie Bucky has been cast.

stormseye posted with assorted fanart

And ani_bester posted a cute little April ficlet for us.


Finally, if you're a new or recent member, hello and welcome! Our rules are here, and in the profile; this includes our warnings policy, so please read. If you're interested in the ship, you may want to read the Ship Manifesto, and consult the list of Slashy Moments. If you're planning to write for the comm, there are some tips on writing the pairing here, and the Avengers in general here; if you're having trouble finding a beta, or would like to offer your services as a beta, our beta list is here. If you're looking for the comm archive, it's Tales of Suspense, and it's automated - you can create an account and upload your fic. if you have any questions, you can comment here or PM a mod, that's me, muccamukk, or garrideb.

Note: Tale of Suspense is down right now, but should be back soon.

Comments

[muccamukk]

Maybe it's Spitfire? She's blonde and British. That would be kind of fun. I like her.

Though if Jac's in it, and there's no female resistance fighters, I might be irritated.

Maybe we could have Natalia too though? Depending on the retcon, she was a teenager during the war, and did fight for the Russians. Not as Steve's gf, though, as that would be creepy.

Knightly would make me \o/

[elspethdixon.livejournal.com]

I was just about to suggest Spitfire (though Seanchai's rooting hard for Betsy Ross).

[valtyr]

Hey there, I note Tales of Suspense is down for maintenance - any chance of an announcement of what's going on on the comm, or letting a mod know so we can mention it in a newsletter? :) Thanks!

[elspethdixon.livejournal.com]

It crashed this weekend, but apparently only in firefox and explorer -- seanchai can get it to work in safari. She's been sick and therefore we've kind of let it slide for a couple days, because I know nothing about web coding, but she's working on figuring out wtf's going on with it now.

She thought she'd fixed it last week before she got sick (because it *worked* when she checked it in safari), so thanks for the heads up.

[valtyr]

It's not working in Chrome either. :) I'll add a note to the newsletter.

Give my get-well-soon wishes to seanchai!

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

I would just like to say that TSUKI told me to post it or she would badger me forever. Blame her!

Oh and for a Love Interest, I vote Howard Stark :P

[muccamukk]

Oh and for a Love Interest, I vote Howard Stark :P

HAHAHA. I think we're trying to avoid Steve creepily working his way through entire family trees.

[valtyr]

Nah, it's grand. His first movie is adventures with Peggy Carter, Howard Stark and Bucky Barnes, and then his second is him kidnapping Sharon, Tony and Rick and making them pretend to be his old friends. Fury makes them all play along because they need Steve too much. They try and persuade Thor to wear his wings on his ankles instead of his helmet and answer to Namora, but he's having none of it.

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

It's not creepy; it's Tony. They are *~*~*~*DESTINED*~*~* for each other. *rolls eyes*

Actually, I have no way to say this without sounding 'Like a slash fangirl who hates women', but I really don't want a love interest. Period. I'm all for Kick Ass Women as Resistance fighters, nurses, Avengers, etc. But no smooches. I don't want Pearl Harbor. I want Saving Private Ryan.

[valtyr]

Well, for me it depends. I don't mind a good, well-integrated love story where in the course of the plot Cap and Designated Love Interest fall for each other. I do mind having thirty minutes of important Nazi-smashing time taken up by meet cutes and awkward dialogue and then the chick ends up tied to railroad tracks and screaming while the hero Saves Her and also The Day.

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

LOL, No, I agree. But I fear it will be the latter. That's why I'd "rather be safe than sorry" and just skip it all together. Plus as I've pointed out before, Marvel's trying to cram SO MUCH into this movie already -- the origin, Bucky, Gail, the Avengers, Red Skull, Modern Time Bookends -- that I feel like it's going to be the Who's greatest hits album instead of Tommy.

[valtyr]

Well, if it was Gail, and they went with the Ults origin, it would fit quite well - they've known each for years, so no time wasted on getting-to-know you, and they write to each other. However, that does mean she's not on-screen much. (Also I don't see how she could be British, so probably not Gail.)

Although Gail as his girl back home and then Keira or whoever as Spitfire and not a romantic interest would be very cool!

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

That would be cool.

[muccamukk]

If it does turn out to be Knightly, I expect more wackign with things and running about in a badass way than annoying underwater swimming. I do get what you mean though. I don't want the character to be "Girl, First Name: The". I want her to be part of the story. With explosions. Peggy was like that originally.

[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

OH SURE, BLAME ME. :P

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

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[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

Noooo!!! Not Kiera Knightly!

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

Besides, she might be tied up with PoTC...4, I think? Or another costume drama. Gah, Knightly, all she does is pout with that crazy underbite. To be fair, Emily Blunt is up and coming, with the trajectory of her career right now, I can see why she'd avoid being in a Superhero movie, I think.

I'm dead pleased with the casting for Bucky. He was in The Covenant</> and the only good thing in that wretched movie.

Re: Noooo!!! Not Kiera Knightly!

[valtyr]

I do like Keira Knightley, but she is a bit one-note. I mean, I like that note, but.

Really, considering what happens to women in superhero movies - they get the crappiest parts, the worst dialogue, are reduced to boobs and hair, and then are blamed for being the Cause of Fail when a movie isn't great - I can't see why a good actress would want to be in one. Like, at least the male lead is going to get to dress up and play heroes.

Re: Noooo!!! Not Kiera Knightly!

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

Really, considering what happens to women in superhero movies - they get the crappiest parts, the worst dialogue, are reduced to boobs and hair, and then are blamed for being the Cause of Fail when a movie isn't great.

Hmm, not in Superhero movies. I mean, all of Burton's Batman movies sucked on their own, without the female leads been called out on, thank you very much. :D

GI JOE: the movie blew chunks *jazzypom cries over time and money that she will NEVER get back* , but no one was slagging off Sienna Miller as far as I'm aware (apart from those people on ONTD who can't stand her for some insane reason).

Also, in Batman Returns, Katie Holmes was weak - like, Which one of these do not belong? weak, true facts.

But Emily Blunt? I think at this time of her acting career life, she'll be on the hunt for Oscar Bait (TM) roles. She can do the love interest to the Superhero roles after the plaudits and critiques, like Natalie Portman (who hasn't been good in anything since Leon but I digress) and her hand in the Thor franchise.

Re: Noooo!!! Not Kiera Knightly!

[valtyr]

Well, Katie Holmes carried a lot of blame for Batman Begins/Dark Knight which I don't feel she deserved - what did she have to work with, really? She was just extraneous to the plot, and it showed. Jessica Alba got it in the neck for FF, Jennifer Garner got a lot of criticism for Daredevil, Malin Ackerman was reamed for Watchmen. Hell, there's already a post over at noscans_daily saying Hit Girl is the weak point of Kick Ass. I'm not saying it's inevitable, but it happens a heck of a lot.

Michelle Pfeiffer was awesome in Batman Returns, and that's because they actually gave her material to work with. (Okay, and Michelle Pfeiffer is awesome.)

Huh?

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

Hit Girl was the best part of Kick Ass. Her opening line to the bad guys was worth the price of admission alone (whoa, Kick Ass made it to the US?).

Ackerman couldn't act. Alas. Neither could Alba. I agree with the critics who said that their guidance counsellors should have said, "Have you ever thought about being a nurse?" Daredevil was panned for being a shit movie all around, helped by the fact that Affleck's career was sliding into the doldrums fast at that time (with his over exposure, being involved with that woman - her name escapes me right now) Katie Holmes' role could have been a lot stronger, true - but if she were a better actress, she could have worked with the role that she had (like Maggie Gyn-whatshername).

Re: Huh?

[valtyr]

C'mon, Maggie Gyllenhall didn't fare much better. And I like Jessica Alba, and I think she can act - she's not Judi Dench or anything, but she was fine in Sin City and she used to be pretty good in Dark Angel. And I thought Ackerman was fine, actually, I genuinely don't see why she got such crap. (Okay, she didn't pass well for an eighteen year old, but that's not her fault.)

Women's roles in superhero movies don't tend to be good. I mean, WTF did Rachel do in The Dark Knight? She was utterly sidelined. Even Iron Man didn't exactly do great. (Though fingers crossed IM2 will be better.) Compared to say, Sherlock Holmes, where they beefed up the female roles and made them important parts of plot and characterization.

Re: Huh?

[elspethdixon.livejournal.com]

I thought Ackerman was fine, actually, I genuinely don't see why she got such crap

Because reviewers couldn't see past the gratuitously sleazy costume? Well, that, and Alan Moore didn't give her all that much to work with to begin with, and the movie cut what there was down even further by taking out the smoking and the swearing.

edited to add: Given that they stole Harvey Dent's canon backstory wholesale and gave it to Katie Holmes's character in Batman Begins, I was halfway convinced that we were going to get Maggie Gyllanhall as a female Two-Face in TDK. It would have been much cooler than her getting to be the woman in two men's refrigerators.

Re: Huh?

[elspethdixon.livejournal.com]

Daredevil's somewhat better if you watch the director's cut. Like, mediocre instead of terrible. The theatrical release suffered from really bad editing choices on top of being a shaky film to start with (let's cut out an entire subplot, but leave one lone scene from it stranded by itself in the middle of the film, just to be confusing!).

When you have Michael Clark Duncan and Jennifer Garner in the same movie, Jennifer Garner is going to suffer in comparison, even if she hadn't been miscast (I do not think "kickass ninja assassin who could kill you with her bare hands" when I look at Jennifer Garner's doe eyes, elfin face, and skinny frame). I find that mentally substituting Michelle Rodriguez or Aishwarya Rai improves Daredevil all around.

[valtyr]

I do too.

[elspethdixon.livejournal.com]

seanchai's working on it -- there's something that's causing the site not to display in explorer and firefox.

[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

IDK, I kind of adored Kiera in Pirates. I wouldn't mind seeing more of her. *cough* ¬.¬

[valtyr]

I just feel like her characters are kind of all the same; Elizabeth was Guinevere was Georgiana. Still, she's not awful or anything.

[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

Have you seen her in Domino? I think that she just has an unlucky streak of type-casting for historical roles, but she definitely has some range.

[valtyr]

You wouldn't think that the Duchess of Devonshire would be largely interchangeable with a Celtic warrior, though. Oh well, we'll see. I haven't seen Domino, I heard it was bad?

[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure that's Hollywood's fault.

I thought it was awesome for a movie of it's type (I admit to preferring comedies and fluff films). I think the unreliable narrator throws people.

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

*popping in * Did you see Atonement? She's excellent in that.

[valtyr]

I haven't, maybe I've just seen her in the wrong things.