Just a little discussion

[silver-autumn.livejournal.com]

I recently started reading this really thought-provoking Graphic Novel called Irredeemable by Mark Waid and it set the plot bunnies loose in my mind. It's dark and a bit distrubing but ..pretty good.

Anyway I was thinking of writing some tony/cap inspired by this comic. So my question for discussion is this: What would it take to make Steve Rogers go bad?
Is he capable of going bad? We saw him be a bit of a rogue in Civil War but could he ever be considered a villian? What would have to happen in order for Captain America to go (for lack of a better term) to the dark side?

I've only been playing in this fandom for about three years now so I'm still pretty new. I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Mods- I hope this post is alright. Let me know if it's outta line.

Comments

[geekychan.livejournal.com]

Off-topic (kind of) but Irredeemable is awesome. I picked it up during Free Comic Book Day and was just hooked.

[strzyga.livejournal.com]

i've actually been playing with a story idea in which tony and steve are both evil, lmao. my thoughts on steve are that he'd be something along the lines of ultimates/1610 red skull-- trained in secret by the military, genius child prodigy, excels at everything, including his secret insanity and plot to destroy his, ah, 'keepers,' if you will, and eventually breaks free. whether he was going to go AWOL during WWII and the american government would know was something i hadn't decided yet, but /shrug

as for, like, current day steve going evil, i've got nothing outside of brainwashing/possession, ahaha.


also, irredeemable is fantastic ♥♥♥

[cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com]

Well, if you read Exiles, apparently it takes getting bitten by an evil vampire.

[booster-blue.livejournal.com]

Well, if you work it like Irredeemable then you could have Cap being raised by the military; or even do the whole Bucky route of the too young wet-works type. Deny him any kind/caring influences in his life to balance out the military life, he'd be a ticking time bomb.

[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

Evil Steve, I think, tends to be a Crazy Steve. He has to break very, very thoroughly in order to be evil, IMO, and it tends to be the "I am doing what is right" sort of evil, where he honestly thinks that killing off however many people is for the best. I touched on that sort of thing in What You Have Tamed (http://community.livejournal.com/tsukinoniwa/37517.html) with AU!Steve, but I'm kind of glad that I didn't spend much time on him. He creeps me out. D: But long story short, Evil Steve in there is very dictatorial. There's a lot of back story that Tony just didn't have the mental capacity to notice (and so it didn't make it into the text), but Steve is pretty much out to "fix" the world, and feels that if most of it dies in the process, so be it. (Warning for those clicking the link: VERY NON-CON, torture, mind games... Just say Ow.)

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