http://fictivore.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2011-02-03 04:02 pm
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Canon Resources Needed!

Okay, comm! A bunny might have gently gnawed on my digits but for that I am desperately in need of being pointed to certain instances of canon. Please help!

So, we all know Tony can be a bit of an asshole to people around him. Can people please refer me to (preferably with issue number but just the name/description of the particular arc works as well) specific instances of him being an asshole to Pepper / Rhodey / Avengers / other superheroes / his employees / random by-stander / anyone at all!  And while post CW instances are fine and more than welcome, what I'm really looking for is of the pre-CW timeline. (But. like I said, both are fine.)

Off the top of my head, I can think of- the time he didn't tell anyone he was cryogenically frozen / not dead; the time he dated Jan without telling her his secret ID; the time he was drunk and rude to Jarvis; the time Rumiko told him she loved him and he didn't respond/ ran away...

Anything else is okay, please?

Edit: Uh... clarifying because this wasn't clear in the original post... I am not implying that narratively Tony  *is* an asshole, I'm looking for instances where people might *perceive* him as an asshole in-comics...  Of course, if you have any incident in mind, where you feel the narrative also insists on the dickish-ness or where *you* felt the behaviour was unjustified pure!dick, do share! Thanks!

[identity profile] tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com 2011-02-03 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Mrmmm... this is kind of hard, because IC-Tony is rarely an asshole without reason, or in really huge and notable ways. Most of the things I can think of are directly related to his drinking, his mental health problems or a plot where he was acting in a rational-once-you-know-everything manner. :\ Civil War, whichever side you were on, was an anomaly.

I don't think he's really an asshole at all, TBH. Even in your examples. I can't speak for the cryogenic freezing (haven't read that), but the time he dated Jan was almost definitely due to him being afraid she'd back out if he revealed his identity (a pretty understandable worry). The time he was drunk and rude to Jarvis, the man was in the middle of attempted suicide-by-alcohol, which completely changes the situation. And with Rumiko, I think you're talking about the Sentient Armor arc? Where the armor was essentially being an abusive boyfriend and probably would have killed Rumiko if Tony had responded? Also completely changes the situation.