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cap_ironman2011-03-17 10:44 pm
hohaiyee.livejournal.com) wrote in cap_ironman2011-03-17 10:44 pm
Happy Green Beer Day Everyone! / Engineer's Iron Ring
Okay, it's canon that Steve's parents were Irish, but how much did that affect Steve? Like, as in, shown in the comic. Was his Irish Heritage ever shown or was it just Informed?
...and on the subject of heritage...has it ever been canonly referenced that Tony is Italian descent? Though in my head canon, he so is.
...and since we are only semi-on topic right now, I might as well ask...who among us here is actually an engineer or took engineering? Recently I started reading an interesting book, "Introduction to professional engineering in Canada" by G.C. Andrews, and in the beginning, there was a story about the tradition of the Iron Ring, which started in Canada but spread to the US. At least 100 years ago, mid construction of the Quebec Bridge, it collapsed and killed over 70 workers because the head engineer Cooper had went ahead with a bad plan - starting construction when he realised that irl the weight would be much heavier than what he thought it would be on paper.
...and according to that book, in response, engineers got organized and established a code of ethics, and just as doctors have the hippocratic oath, engineers have the Iron Ring Ceremony (or, The Ritual of the Calling of an Engineer). The book even says that the early rings were made from scrap metals of the Quebec Bridge.
...but the Internets say it's actually a myth.
Anyone here actually wearing the ring or know someone who does? Heard the story?
...and on the subject of heritage...has it ever been canonly referenced that Tony is Italian descent? Though in my head canon, he so is.
...and since we are only semi-on topic right now, I might as well ask...who among us here is actually an engineer or took engineering? Recently I started reading an interesting book, "Introduction to professional engineering in Canada" by G.C. Andrews, and in the beginning, there was a story about the tradition of the Iron Ring, which started in Canada but spread to the US. At least 100 years ago, mid construction of the Quebec Bridge, it collapsed and killed over 70 workers because the head engineer Cooper had went ahead with a bad plan - starting construction when he realised that irl the weight would be much heavier than what he thought it would be on paper.
...and according to that book, in response, engineers got organized and established a code of ethics, and just as doctors have the hippocratic oath, engineers have the Iron Ring Ceremony (or, The Ritual of the Calling of an Engineer). The book even says that the early rings were made from scrap metals of the Quebec Bridge.
...but the Internets say it's actually a myth.
Anyone here actually wearing the ring or know someone who does? Heard the story?
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Yeah, I think that's what convinced me that the writers knew what Tony is all about. When being a kid, didn't stop his life from sucking or Iron Man from screwing with his mind. [Though the kid-safing of the Sentient!Armor arc was the most LOLworthy thing ever if you knew the actual comic!] Well that, and the 'Kid-protagonist-on-a-kids-show has bloody permanent under-eye circles from overwork!' because Tony wouldn't be Tony is he wasn't working himself to death over 'his responsibilities'... And the apparent non-interference from adults is explained and referred to and makes sense! :O
He'd either love 616!Tony or hate him or, knowing this show, both.
But then 616!Tony both loves and hates 616!Tony (though I think its been more on the 'I-hate-myself' wagon since Disassembled now) so even that would be a characteristic transcending universes. -_-;
[[I think that's the kind of WTF which most of the *world* still uses as proof that comics are not 'real literature'. 'Oh, Comics' indeed.]]
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Oh! And now I'm wondering about Steve (and his hopefully inevitable defrosting) in the IMAA universe. Everyone thinks that IM is an adult, right? And no way pacifist!Howard didn't bring up Tony on stories of Cap and his mythical no-kill image. And Steve would be defrosted and then Cap and IM would work together (for SHIELD?) and Tony wopuld be in ~love and Steve might be sort of crushing/admiring of Iron Man. But! Tony is underage!!!!!! *angst angst angst*
Oh man! WANT! *_* [And I usually really really don't like age-diff parirings!]
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But yes, underage Tony is some very messed up jailbait. He's smarter than most adults and in the middle of this moral dilemna post-crash and Steve is a soft place to fall. And Steve is filled with admiration, DO NOT WANT and DO WANT at the same time. (Also, this solidifies Tony as the Woobie because underage he's even more sad-puppy than normal.)
Link found! http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5950166/1/A_True_Hero
And yes, we are OT as hell. And it is wonderful.
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But I've been working on IMAA!Steve/Tony fic in my head for a while, if I could just get up the confidence to post it. I just can't help but think nobody would be interested. IMAA is very love-it-or-hate-it.
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Maybe I could do a pimp-post sort of thing once I have a little more time in my life? *makes note to ask for modly permission*
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But if you want to beta/hand hold/bounce ideas back and forth I would be thrilled. Because I, much like my friend who wrote the excellent fic recced above, have Grimdark tendencies and I wonder if that isn't detrimental to my writing half the time.
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(And maybe we should move this party to PM? Where I can expound more on Rhodey's dad and you can introduce me to this delicious looking fandom and its fanon? *hopeful*)
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[Move it PM if you'd like, and I can introduce you to the Mongolian versus Chinese debate and the Gene's Mom fanon and it will be so nerdy your head will explode.]