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question/discussion: Sam Wilson aka, Falcon
It seemed to me this post is withing acceptable guidelines, b-but still a bit nervous. Hello, fellow community members. I'm currently writing an alternate universe Steve/Tony fic in which Sam Wilson/Falcon is a prominent supporting character, but unfortunately I haven't read enough canon he appears in.
So, if anyone has thoughts/characterization tips (or even recs for comics he appears in, though I can't vouch being able to find them if they aren't online somewhere) regarding Sam, I'd be very grateful if you could share them. Since it's an AU (set in medieval times) I'm especially interested in his personality, as that's not something I can read about on wiki very much. :')
So, if anyone has thoughts/characterization tips (or even recs for comics he appears in, though I can't vouch being able to find them if they aren't online somewhere) regarding Sam, I'd be very grateful if you could share them. Since it's an AU (set in medieval times) I'm especially interested in his personality, as that's not something I can read about on wiki very much. :')
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Other mod really likes Sam.
Okay, here's the problem with Sam. He can be an awesome character, but in the '70s he got a RetCon Of Doom, and was made less awesome, canon since the '70s has dealt with that to vary degrees of success.
Personally, I really enjoy his original origin story in the early days of Captain America and the Falcon, the Stan Lee issues. Avoid Englehart for Sam (Or Peggy, or Sharon). I also liked him in the Mad Bomb/Roller Derby issues (Cap #193-214). It still had a bit of the evil retcon, but he and Steve had a nice snarky vibe going. I've enjoyed Brubaker's Sam, though I find he's a little too... supportive I guess. Like I tend to like him better when he's more directly challenging Steve, not antagonistic really, but not just there to provide hugs when needed. Sam and Bucky had a hilarious dynamic too. So I'd rec the Brubaker stuff for Sam, even though Sharon is terrible in it.
That's all I can think of for now. Hope it helps
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I'll try to keep an eye out for that stuff. Though, like I said I live in Finland where a lot of stuff is either not available at all or only available in very few places and/or expensive. I it's all probably somewhere online but it's... harder to concentrate on reading comics on the screen, somehow. Anyway, after putting together the info I got in answers here I hope I have a better idea what sort of person he is/could be in the story.
Sounds like he's usually an independent person who won't take people being stupid without challenging it. And occasionally kind of snarky? One thing I wonder about... I understand he's also an atheist in canon (is that only a thing since the Retcon of doom/ is it still maintained?). I'd been pondering about his religion in the AU since it's something rather important in the medieval setting and in the story he's from Egypt, where there were both coptic christians and muslims according to what I've read... anyway, how important part of his character would you say that is?
Sam was raised religious
I think Sam tends to be impatient and isn't one to suffer fools gladly rather than being snarky. His speech can be pretty pointed.
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Yeah, I think you can get the Lee run in Captain America Essential, but the rest might be pricey trades. I like Book Depository for some of that stuff, brings the prices down a bit.
Sam does have a sense of humour, but it's more deadpan than anything else. Like he's not in your face snarky like Clint his, it's more of a statement of fact and letting the truth speak for itself.
I was thinking about Sam and Steve after I wrote that last (I only get Internet a couple times a week), and it seems to me that Sam is almost more of an idealist than Steve is. Because Steve has this American Dream thing going, and he tries to make everyone live up to it, and sure he has a lot of compassion for people who can't or don't or have lost hope along the way, but if things go too far off track he sulks mightily about how things shouldn't be that way. Whereas Sam knows that the world is going to disappoint him, and keep disappointing him, and he's just kind of gets on with trying to make it better. He doesn't have a lot of patience for Steve's sulking though.
I think Sam is a practical man. If you're writing in a time when everyone is religious because everyone is, he'll probably have the state religion from wherever he's from. I could see him as Muslim more than Coptic, but I don't think it really matters to his story. He's long since gotten over his teenaged angry at god so I'm not believing in him thing. Now he's just kind of low-level atheist, and it doesn't figure into the plot at all really.