Cap 2 reaction and squee post

[whizzy.livejournal.com]

Seen Winter Soldier?  Want to talk about it?  This is the place!  We ask that you contain all movie discussion to the comments of this post.  Spoilers are of course welcome, so if you haven't seen it and don't want to be spoiled, proceed at your own risk.

Comments

[partytimexelent.livejournal.com]

Of course he lives through it, love, he's in Avengers 2 and there will be a Cap 3. Also, Chris Evans still has three movies to make as Captain America so you're safe.

[selinamoonfire.livejournal.com]

I keep telling myself that but I also am terrified of Bucky!Cap ending up in MCU soon. Or Civil War...

[jazmin22.livejournal.com]

If Bucky!Cap happens, I think it'll be after Cap3/Avengers 3...Also I don't think Civil War will happen too soon, to me it seems like Avengers 3 is going to be Thanos/Infinity Gauntlet centered...

[i-llbedammned.livejournal.com]

That's what it seemed like to me too. There are a lot of threads they have to weave together during that.

[being-here.livejournal.com]

Oh that would be a relief. Watching Cap 2 gave me fears that A3 would be Civil War-ish.

[squeeful.livejournal.com]

It wouldn't work. The basis behind CW was that the majority of superheroes had secret identities. Going by both the MCU and Agents of SHIELD canon, SHIELD knew who current and emerging metahumans are and documented them. Natasha dumped all of SHIELD's files on the internet so now everyone knows everyone's secret identity, if they ever had one. Boom, big driving force of the SHRA is already done. There would be no point. Additionally, most of the superheroes we've seen in the MCU are part or or have major ties to military branches or government agencies. Bam, accountability issues taken care of, same with the drafting and training parts of the SHRA.

The dramatic tension in CW was that it was ultimately a Steve/Tony fight, built upon 40+ years of comic canon and over a decade of in-universe love and friendship. The MCU doesn't have that so any attempt to frame it that way would lack dramatic teeth.

If Civil War did happen, it would look nothing like the comic book event, if the writers at Marvel have any decent writing skills, which they've shown they do have for the MCU.

Now, you could do it as a meta vs mundane human split because Marvel Studios doesn't own the rights to mutants so the MCU lacks any kind of persecution storyline.

[whizzy.livejournal.com]

There are a couple other things the MCU doesn't have that it would need for the comics version of civil war. There isn't a "superhero community". The isn't a decades-long tradition of very public costumed vigilantes and villains slugging it out on the streets. There isn't a history of ordinary people being caught up in and injured/killed by those superpowered squabbles. (I am still waiting for the MCU to pull a Carnelian Ambassador incident.)

Also, I love that CA2 gleefully went there with Insight. It took the scariest argument against registration (we'd be exposed and vulnerable if the wrong got a hold of our info and used it to target us) and applied it to everyone on the planet, not just the superheroes.