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Captain America: Civil War - Discussion Post
Some of you might have caught a preview, some of you might get to see it today or later this week and some of you might still be waiting. So here is the place to talk about Captain America: Civil War. You can jump in at any time after you've seen the movie - or before if you don't mind spoilers.
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This is the place where anyone who has seen it can jump right in and share their thoughts, tears and reactions or share links to reviews they found interesting. This is very much not a spoiler free post, so read comments at your own peril.
As the poster below states, for much of the world the movie won't be released for another week, so keep in mind our temporary spoiler policy for posting to the community outside of this post.
Let’s have at it!
This is the place where anyone who has seen it can jump right in and share their thoughts, tears and reactions or share links to reviews they found interesting. This is very much not a spoiler free post, so read comments at your own peril.
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http://www.yam-mag.com/reviews/film-reviews/captain-america-civil-war/
Also, this movie gave me tachycardia. It's been a while I have had tachycardia because of a film... not since The Avengers xD
OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!
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I wrote an incoherent list if anyone's interested. Fair warning, I wrote that frantically, tumblr style, and I also wrote my dislikes towards certain characters and scenes.
http://fictionforlife.livejournal.com/7566.html
I didn't expect to see so many in-depth Steve-Tony interactions and that made me really happy. I got to see them getting to know each other, getting familiar with each other's strengths and flaws. Steve and Tony both look genuinely care about each other and Steve's letter in the end broke me. I'm super excited about where Steve and Tony will go from here. Also so many great materials for fanwork SO MANY oh my god.
RDJ & Evans played their parts so well, I was amazed. I thought they had great chemistry.
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It's the first movie in over a decade I've enjoyed that didn't leave me with a ship; I went into it firmly Steve / Tony, at the end of it, I'm not as far as canon MCU is concerned.
Many will find Steve's letter to Tony at the end hopeful, and I think the creators intend it as a bridge to a reconciliation in Avengers 3, but I found it creepy in a stalky kind of way. The only fic I have in mind at this point is one where Tony gets Steve to accept that Steve's continuing to insist they're friends is inappropriate and stops. YMMV.
Luckily I'm good with the multiverse - I'll continue to enjoy Steve / Tony in 'verses that split off from the MCU before this, and in comics based stories.
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I loved it. I had some issues, but overall I loved it. Tony was so very much 616-like, and this is the Tony I love. And oh god, they filmed the fight from Civil War #7, I thought I'd scream when I saw it. It was awesome.
(clearly no, i can't be coherent yet)
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Loved, loved, loved T'Challa! ♥ Bucky & Steve, friends 4ever. ♥ Steve & Natasha friendship. Tony & Peter were hilarious and awesome. Ant-Man was a great addition. Love Bucky and Sam in the VW. There was some lovely Vision/Wanda, and associated angst. So glad nobody actually died, but, ouch, Rhodey! Holy CRAP, the Raft and the Avengers imprisoned! ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ Steve's letter at the end. The Steve/Tony was heartbreaking and awesome. I'm glad that Tony broke the Accord to help Steve, and that their fight wasn't over politics.
I did say out loud, "Ew, that's Peggy's niece!" you know when.
But mostly, I just can't even with a world where they keep throwing Manhattan in the Avengers' faces. Like, really? If you wish you were all Chitauri slaves, so sorry about to have interfered. Half the team spent their time getting as many people to safety as possible. Same with Washington DC—Hydra was about to take out most of the world leadership with unstoppable helicarriers. It was take out a few blocks around the Potomac or lose the free world. But, you know, go ahead and choose. Or Wanda tossing Rumlow before he blew. Either he took out the entire market, or there might be a chance he'd clear the building before he blew. Instead he took out upper stories. She wasn't the one who detonated a suicide vest, though, that was him.
The (still) unnamed African city and Sokovia are harder. Still Hydra—they created Wanda and nurtured her grudge; she turned her powers on Bruce and Tony causing the Hulk rampage and Tony's crazed AI development. But that was more invisible to the general public than the Chitauri and Hydra. Still, the whole premise of "blame the Avengers" makes me crazy.
It also upset me, though, that in this volatile environment, Steve was pretty heedless of the collateral damage as he went after Bucky. After telling Bucky not to kill anyone coming after them, they dealt out some damned hard hits to the soldiers and vehicular assaults in the underground roadway. Not that the German special forces were doing much better—not backing off at all in a crowded civilian environment. :-/ At least they made a point of clearing the airport before that fight.
And Zemo, ugh, you will deliberately kill hundreds of innocent people in a crazy, convoluted plot because the Avengers were accidentally not able to prevent the deaths of four? Argh! Unfortunately I'm afraid "collateral damage," PR, and politics will continue to be issues going forward, since half the Avengers are on-the-run vigilantes now.
Anyway, eagerly awaiting that "I need you" phone call!
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Overall, it was a good movie, and one I will probably never watch again. Which makes me sad because I was hoping for something better for Tony and Cap. :(