cap_ironman | casual conversation topics for Steve and Tony

This seems like a silly thing to post about, but I swear, it's one of my biggest tripping points when I'm writing certain stories. And I'm not writing a story currently that requires this, but I've been pondering it lately and thought it might be fun for people to speculate on. And hey, if it turns out to be a jumping off point for discussion, so much the better!

Anyway, here's the question I've been pondering...

If Steve and Tony were just hanging out, talking casually (i.e., not about the latest threat or any other Avengers business), what would they talk about?

Sports? If so, which ones? Books? What kind? I can't really see Tony reading much fiction... Movies? Throwaway canon comments suggest that Tony, at least, doesn't go to many. I'm certain they'd sometimes talk about politics and world events, but I think those discussions could get a little heavy for casual conversation. Would they have philosophical debates? About what ideas? I doubt either of them has much time for hobbies, but can you think of one that either of them might like enough to squeeze in a few minutes for here and there? (Well, aside from Steve's art and Tony's tinkering, which are obvious ones.) Would they gossip about their fellow superheros?

Brainstorm away!

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One of my favourite things about the Steve/Tony dynamic is that Tony has the chance to introduce Steve to practically a whole new world- so many of the defining cultural things that define our society- Elvis, the Beatles, LoTR (there was this fantastic moment in this one fic, I forget which, where Steve found out that Tolkien had written a sequel to the Hobbit...) or even Star Wars. And Tony might not go to that many movies because he can just see them at home, in his own personal movie theater. *g*

And then there's the fact that Tony is such a ridonculous GEEK- I have no doubt he and Steve would argue endlessly over classic cars versus modern ones, snail mail versus the internet, the whole nine yards. I can't see Steve as a technophobe, though, more that he's convinced the old ways are... I don't know, less soulless, somehow?

Gossip? I can see Steve needing to know about the other heroes, especially the Avengers, because they're his family. Tony? Just loves gossip.

You know, for a non-Marvel fan, I actually spend an insane amount of time thinking about this pairing...

It's in Classic-verse #3, when the Avengers are arguing over what movies they need to make Steve watch.

The awesome part is that Steve is canonically a Tolkien fan. There's panel somewhere in either volume 1 Cap or volume 1 Avengers where he's mentally listing the greatest cultural accomplishments of the 20th century, and Tolien's on the list.

The awesome part is that Steve is canonically a Tolkien fan. There's panel somewhere in either volume 1 Cap or volume 1 Avengers where he's mentally listing the greatest cultural accomplishments of the 20th century, and Tolien's on the list.

I don't even like Tolkien (I know, blasphemy for an SF&F fan, but true) and this is still made of win. *grins* I think it must be in volume 1 Cap, because I've read all of the Avengers except Disassembled at this point and I haven't seen that scene. Unless it was a special or a mini, which is entirely possible.

One of my favourite things about the Steve/Tony dynamic is that Tony has the chance to introduce Steve to practically a whole new world

Ooooh, this is an excellent point! Depending on the story, Steve has probably discovered a lot himself, but still, decades worth of culture and history is impossible to totally catch up on.

I have no doubt he and Steve would argue endlessly over classic cars versus modern ones, snail mail versus the internet, the whole nine yards.

That could definitely be fun. *grins* And now my brain is trying to give me a love letter writing bunny. Argh, brain! I already have four stories in progress and one other that I'm just barely resisting starting by the skin of my teeth! *adds this one to the bunny hutch and hopes it'll be satisfied with that*

You know, for a non-Marvel fan, I actually spend an insane amount of time thinking about this pairing...

*g* If you're a non-Marvel fan, how did you find the pairing? (Possibly I should already know this, but my memory is like a sieve.)

decades worth of culture and history is impossible to totally catch up on
*nods* Living in India, I can definitely empathize a little with Steve's whole man-out-of-time thing- there's a HUGE amount of cultural references that y'all in the West take for granted that I wouldn't have the first clue about, and I'm pretty Westernized as it is.

*not-so-discreetly encourages the bunny* That would be five kinds of awesome, really. I could see it starting out completely platonic- say, with Tony going on about how much more convenient emails are, and Steve pointing out that he's never received an old-fashioned letter in his life, so how would he know? And the whole thing just going from there.

*pokes* It's all your fault, really. You added me to your fic-in-progress filter, and after that I decided there was no point fighting it. Funnily enough, I *still* don't like Marvel, especially Civil War and its aftermath. Steve and Tony in my head exist in a happy little AU where CW did not happen, Steve is still alive, and Tony is- well, he can't NOT be messed up and still be Tony, but I like to think he's on the saner side of messed up.

*nods* Living in India, I can definitely empathize a little with Steve's whole man-out-of-time thing- there's a HUGE amount of cultural references that y'all in the West take for granted that I wouldn't have the first clue about, and I'm pretty Westernized as it is.

India? Wow. I'm used to the Internet being awesomely internation, but I think this is the first time I've run into someone living in India.

I could see it starting out completely platonic- say, with Tony going on about how much more convenient emails are, and Steve pointing out that he's never received an old-fashioned letter in his life, so how would he know? And the whole thing just going from there.

I had it in my mind as an established relationship kind of thing, but you know, I think I could make it work as a first time fic, too. *g* With the letters slowly growing more personal, more intimate, both of them revealing things in text that it just wouldn't come to them to say in a normal conversation, and then the letters start trending into romantic areas... So sweet.

*pokes* It's all your fault, really. You added me to your fic-in-progress filter, and after that I decided there was no point fighting it.

*laughs* I'm happy to take the ~~blame~~ ~~credit~~ blame. *g*

Funnily enough, I *still* don't like Marvel, especially Civil War and its aftermath.

I love Marvel and I don't like Civil War and its aftermath, either. *wry*

Steve and Tony in my head exist in a happy little AU where CW did not happen, Steve is still alive, and Tony is- well, he can't NOT be messed up and still be Tony, but I like to think he's on the saner side of messed up.

Hee! We're all right there in the happy AU with you. :-) :-) And hey, being with Steve really helps Tony be on the saner side of messed up!

*grins evilly* Do it! But would Tony type out his letters? *shudders at the blasphemy* Or would Steve manage to convince him that old-school means old school? I can just see Tony scrambling around for *just* the right stationery. Not to mention what Pepper and the other Avengers would think of it...

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I need an 'Evil Enabler' icon of some sort...

But would Tony type out his letters? *shudders at the blasphemy*

I think he would start that way, but as they got more intimate, he would start to want to put more into them, and once he gave in and wrote one by hand, it would be a quick slide into getting them perfect.

Not to mention what Pepper and the other Avengers would think of it...

I think Pepper would think it was wonderful. *g* The other Avengers would probably roll their eyes. And depending on when it was set and which Avengers were involved, might tease them to death for it. *g*

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