In the novelizations (Lord, the more I write about The Ultimates, the more disgusted with myself I feel. I have monster issues with the writing, but I keep on reading). Yes, Tony's always in constant pain. When he first tasted alcohol, it got rid of his pain. Of course, that was written after The Ultimates (Ultimate Iron Man came out after the Ultimates), and Tony has well... health issues, so his boozing for good or ill is moot at this point.
But Tony's personality in the IM is interesting. He's mercenary, shallow (he fell in love with his fiancée, because she reminded him of himself - with tits. No joke), his relationships with women are fleeting,and doing this superhero thing because he's found a sort of 'religion' - more to do with his own sudden mortality(Tony is still an agnostic/atheist in this version) than anything else.
You get the feeling that he's hosting The Ultimate Avengers as a mixed bag. Yeah, he's making mad money out of 'em, but he's also actually establishing relationships - helping Cap out, running interference on Pym, etc. It's been interesting watching his character develop in The Avengers.
Which is why I think he and Steve will be relatively close if the series goes on, because Tony is just chill to Steve's intensity.
It was bad enough in 616 verse he shagged Henry Hellrung because Henry looked like him (long story), so it's wack that he does it here! But at least with Henry, there was some heft in the relationship - Hellrung was the person that became his AA sponsor.
Whereas in The Ultimateverse, I honestly don't know what Stark's fiancée bought to the table.
If you can, read the novelisations of the comics. For one, the books are longer, and more in depth. Also, it seems the writers like Tony.
The first graphic novel is a bit sluggish, because they are just establishing the characters, then they take off with a bang.
The Avengers cartoon is quite good, and actually dovetails into the comic quite nicely.
His bibliography is here: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Henry_Hellrung_(Earth-616)
Even though they're playing fast and loose with the facts. Tony Stark was actually sober for a good five days, then he called Henry, and Henry became his sponsor.
It's in the trade paperback of The Order - one of Tony Stark's hero sanctioned teams after civil war. It's a quirky trade, I can understand why it didn't stick around long.
Hellrung is handsome, but his face is not as narrow as Tony's nor are his cheekbones as prominent.
But the Grant, Scott thing was never straight forward. There was a lot of smoke and mirrors around that relationship, and even now, it's all conjecture, because Cary Grant refused to define what they were.
In The Order it works with Tony and Henry, because the lifestyle they were living was proper debauched. In the second trade, there's hints of Tony/Henry again, but then alas, the comic stopped printing.
But anyways, in The Order there's another part in the book where Tony buys Henry a house, and Henry is all, "Say what now?"
Henry is so adorably clueless, I lurve him so. Especially when Pepper asks him to sleep with her, and he's like, "Do what now?"
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I knew about Tony's body-is-brain thing, but drinking really numbs that? Kind of a clever way to let him get away with boozing 24/7.
I will dig through the s_d tags, it might take forever since I'm on dialup.
According to Orson Scott Card's canon, yes
But Tony's personality in the IM is interesting. He's mercenary, shallow (he fell in love with his fiancée, because she reminded him of himself - with tits. No joke), his relationships with women are fleeting,and doing this superhero thing because he's found a sort of 'religion' - more to do with his own sudden mortality(Tony is still an agnostic/atheist in this version) than anything else.
You get the feeling that he's hosting The Ultimate Avengers as a mixed bag. Yeah, he's making mad money out of 'em, but he's also actually establishing relationships - helping Cap out, running interference on Pym, etc. It's been interesting watching his character develop in The Avengers.
Which is why I think he and Steve will be relatively close if the series goes on, because Tony is just chill to Steve's intensity.
Re: According to Orson Scott Card's canon, yes
HAHAHA oh Tones. In ANY universe, you are in love with yourself.
Okay I want to read Ultimates really badly now. Must go to store!
I know, right?
Whereas in The Ultimateverse, I honestly don't know what Stark's fiancée bought to the table.
If you can, read the novelisations of the comics. For one, the books are longer, and more in depth. Also, it seems the writers like Tony.
The first graphic novel is a bit sluggish, because they are just establishing the characters, then they take off with a bang.
The Avengers cartoon is quite good, and actually dovetails into the comic quite nicely.
Still catching up on metric fucktons of IM canon
wait... WHAT
I need a scanner, don't I?
Henry Hellrung.
His bibliography is here: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Henry_Hellrung_(Earth-616)
Even though they're playing fast and loose with the facts. Tony Stark was actually sober for a good five days, then he called Henry, and Henry became his sponsor.
It's in the trade paperback of The Order - one of Tony Stark's hero sanctioned teams after civil war. It's a quirky trade, I can understand why it didn't stick around long.
Hellrung is handsome, but his face is not as narrow as Tony's nor are his cheekbones as prominent.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Order-Next-Right-Thing-v/dp/078512795X/ref=tag_sty_mn_edpp_ttl
at this point, I'll take ghetto scans
'K
Hellrung and Stark (sorry for the blurry scans)
It's a good thing you're a fellow fan! :D'
Here we go!
Henry is talking to a shrink, people are there to monitor the team's mental needs.
I hope this works. If not, go directly to my flickr stream and see the pictures in order (start from the 4th row down)
Oh, with teh 'they tried to pair us up'
Henry cuts him off and says, " Cary Grant. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott."
In Hollywood at the time it was believed that Grant and Scott had an illicit homosexual relationship.
Re: Hellrung and Stark (sorry for the blurry scans)
Sorry, posted it after the pic scan. The convo is like this:
Henry cuts him off and says, " Cary Grant. Cary Grant and Randolph Scott."
Because Grant and Scott were supposedly bum buddies.
There are many pictures with them all touching, feeling, sharing meals...
Re: Sorry, posted it after the pic scan. The convo is like this:
I know, right?
In The Order it works with Tony and Henry, because the lifestyle they were living was proper debauched. In the second trade, there's hints of Tony/Henry again, but then alas, the comic stopped printing.
But anyways, in The Order there's another part in the book where Tony buys Henry a house, and Henry is all, "Say what now?"
Henry is so adorably clueless, I lurve him so. Especially when Pepper asks him to sleep with her, and he's like, "Do what now?"
Re: I know, right?