The Last Rites of Janet Pym and the dumping on Stark, again

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

For those who came late: Pym is back, since his Skrull! Pym form is dead, and Carol (I'm assuming this is Carol because Mockingbird wouldn't know a Scooby what was going on either) fills Pym in on all the madness, and Tony gets dumped on. Again. All you Thor/Pym slashers, quiet in the back, plz. Click on smaller pictures for legibility goodness.

I am NOT posting pictures from IM 8, because art is FUG it is fug. But Tony is getting there.

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[jwaneeta.livejournal.com]

I could see Hank accosting Tony after the service and dumping blame and rage* on him, but at the podium? Really? Even for Hank at his craziest that seems pretty tacky and self indulgent. Way to honor Jan's life, Hank.

*I'm still not clear on why Tony is getting the blame for Jan's death, apart from the fact that he was head of SHIELD when the invasion went down. I read in the intor to IM 8 that even Tony blames himself. What am I missing? Is Dr Strange blaming himself for the invasion and Jan's death too? Because as SS, it was kind of his job to be on the lookout, too.

I have to say, the art on this is really pretty, and the montages are touching and gorgeously drawn. That's Cheung, right? I'm a big fan his work.

In conclusion, RIP Jan until we find out that you were teleported to a planet of benevolent aliens who were able to reverse your plague bombiness. I'll miss you, sniff.

That's a good question.

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

I just think Hank got a lot of information to digest in like, a 30 minute ride. He's come back to find the love of his life dead, and no matter how neutral Carol might have been (and remember Carol was on Tony's side), Stark has been the face of all the stuff that's gone down for the past two/three years.

In terms of Jan's death - yeah, I've been rereading that issue, and it's still unclear, but long story short - Stark should have been watching the fort. According to the POTUS in the comic, Stark was the one at the helm when this clusterf**k occurred. I think the Avengers have brought into that, and emotions are still raw all around.

I think Marvel just needs two years of stories, no more special events for a while. Just looking at the art recap (which I'm impressed with, btw), I just feel fatigued and I'm not even Tony sodding Stark.

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[jwaneeta.livejournal.com]

Yeah: I was at the local comics dealer the other day and got into a bit of a conversation about Marvel, and the phrase "event fatigue" was voiced several times. It's not just the Tony supporters, it's practically everybody.

This crossover stuff is really starting to wear the fans down. They need to lay off it for a while.

Yeah, you can't even be a casual reader anymore

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

Short of Marvel Adventures and the Marvel Superheroes line, you're kicking rocks if you want an entry into Marvel 616 and the DCU. I mean, it's getting down right impenetrable now. Everything has to be at least a six issue story arc (Invaders! Avengers is going to be what, a 12 parter?) and you literally have to commit to a story that might not deliver the goods in the long run.

Both Marvel and DC need to streamline their universe and just build good stories instead of the 'shock and awe' of special events. It's wearing.

Re: Yeah, you can't even be a casual reader anymore

[liliaeth]

They also need to add more hope to the regular verses.

I am seriously growing more and more tired of the dark and gloom that seems to be swalling both companies. It's like they think that the only kind of stories are the ones where the heroes lose and even if they win, they still end up losing.

Oh yeah, that's a point.

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

I mean, there was a time if you wanted 'dark' Marvel titles, you'd look to anything Daredevil, Punisher or Wolverine. Now, it's like, drum un stag everywhere. It's one thing to have a dark patch in the heroes' lives, but this unrelenting gloom is harshing my mellow.

In terms of DC, if you wanted gloom, Batman and anything to do with him. Now, even Superman! bright superman! is getting on the emo, to rahtid.

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[ealainn.livejournal.com]

re no more events- at the Dublin Comic Con last month (completely in more!love with attendee Olivier Coipel, by the by. He needs to draw everything) C.B. Cebulski said there's not going to be a giant 'event' next year, more smaller things involving just a couple of titles (like DC have going on with, I think, Green Lantern), some pretty much dealing with the SI fallout (like Avengers Reunited), and all a bit more intimate and character driven.

Which will be aces is Bendis can just keep his fingers out of it all. I am tired of him now, primarily due to the ridiculous Tony hate.

[the-oke.livejournal.com]

Seconded... Marvel has official declared this the month of Thwack ye Stark!, I only wonder why there's still two people supporting him ;P
Misunderstandings, marvelish for 'always a good plot'.

Ah, wouldn't it be funny if Kitty (X-Men) and Janet came back on the same spaceship XD? Dux machine at it's max? Everybody knows they'll be back, they even brought Mockingbird back for crying out loud - who do they think they're fooling?
'Death' is just a synonym for very long vaccation ;)