ext_52859 ([identity profile] empty-splendor.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2009-07-01 08:44 pm

Invincible Iron Man #15 recap and discussion post

Just like previously, in case you haven't been reading these before:

Reply here or I can't respond :D Spoilers behind the link, obviously.

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[identity profile] cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
::eyetwitch:: Dammit, Fraction. Dammit, Larroca. I want to be sad. I want to be fascinated. I want to be involved in this story, and you make it so fucking hard. Pacing? Sucks. Art? Sucks. Scene-setting? Sucks. Dialogue? All over the damn place. One page, it's all in character and fits, the next, you make me want to fling the comic at the wall. And that's not even getting into the Tony/Pepper that's being hamfistedly shoved into this, which pisses me off, especially after the bit about Happy.

[identity profile] cygna-hime.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, so finally the writer fucking notices what he's had Tony do to himself! *flings hands in air irately* Why did it take until symptoms started showing for these very smart people (by which I mostly mean Pepper) to realize what those symptoms were going to be?!

And Tony/Pepper = ew. So very do not want, and so hamhandedly shoved in. The Happy bit is heartbreaking, but it becomes tarnished as a moment when it's surrounded by haphazardly!shoved!in!fail!pairing. (Also, Pepper, this may not be legally the case, but I thought I should mention that Tony is not IMO capable of informed consent at this time, what with the brainmelty and suicide and all, so not just ew, but NOT OKAY.)

If people talked to one another, Civil War wouldn't have happened, and MArvel is convinced that no one (except me) would be interested in reading a mega-crossover called Civil Disobedience. Even though it would have been awesome, and a fresh new idea, and open for all kinds of fun.

[identity profile] kiarasayre.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Man, your reviews are 100% of the plot, but with added hilarity and none of the shitty art! (Seriously. So shitty.)
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yeah, what she said

[identity profile] jazzypom.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
Motto!

[identity profile] marinarusalka.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 05:41 am (UTC)(link)
I swear to God, I'm getting to the point where I want to track down Larroca and smack him with a shoe. Because there were quite a few scenes in this issue -- Tony's breakdown, Maria's "shoot the bag" freakout, the confrontation with Whitney -- that really worked for me. Or they would've, if I didn't keep getting distracted by the hideously hideous hideousness of the art. Argh.

[identity profile] marinarusalka.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda viewed the begging as more evidence that Tony's mind is going. He literally couldn't think of anything else to do. Pre-brainwipe Tony never would've behaved like that. I think Whitney may be right in her guess that Tony can't lie anymore, which ought to make for some interesting conversations in the next issue.

[identity profile] tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This makes me kind of glad I by-passed this one at the story yesterday. D: Happy...

Also, um, wtf with the angsting over being normal? Because I'm pretty sure normal people don't have to write themselves notes to remember how to use a screw driver. This is several magnitudes of not normal.

(sticks her fingers in her ears and sings Istanbul, Not Constantinople during the blatant Tony/Pepper ham-handedness)

[identity profile] perrypadfoot.livejournal.com 2009-07-02 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
See, here's the thing, I've actually been buying these, and while I agree it's frankly crap art and awkward dialogue, I'm holding on for some kind of big payoff, even if it is Tony jumping into a volcano. That would be fairly awesome, actually...

Am I hoping for too much?

Tony: Who's Happy?
Me: DDDDDDDDD:

Also- Plot Train: woowooooo.
Icon. Need it.

[identity profile] perrypadfoot.livejournal.com 2009-07-04 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of hoping for permanently screwed over (or as permanent as comics get) over death because, let's face it: crazy, suicidal, possibly-a-supervillain-Tony is way more awesome than Dead!Tony anyday.

Unless the death involves a volcano. I want that fucking volcano so hard.

And the bad thing is? I'D forgotten about Happy, so being reminded was like slap to the face!

I actually meant an icon of Plot Train: Woowoooo simply because it amuses me endlessly...

Spoilers ahead (War Machine #7)

[identity profile] 00d.livejournal.com 2009-07-03 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
War Machine #7 ruined this run of IM (not that the art didn't already do that but I was still hoping for some kind of improvement). It shows Stark being fine and dandy, running a new company called "Stark Solutions" (which apparently is a real company, look it up). I don't keep up with WM (I just got this issue because I read Stark's in it) so I can't tell when exactly in Marvel time this is happening but it is during Dark Reign and Osborn's in charge so I can't imagine it's in those brief days Stark still had a hold on his business.

I'm speculating Extremis will have fixed itself of the Skrull virus and return IM's memories. Though I wonder how Stark can operate a company while still being most wanted on Osborn's list. Maybe he struck a deal with him? Or an impostor/clone/skrull/etc?

Returning to the issue at hand, the only thing that bothers me about the Tony/Pepper relationship is that Pepper's most likely going to die. Considering how well Stark's romantic relationships have gone in the past I'm assuming their hooking up is the writer's way of telling us to say goodbye to the character. I really hope that's not the case and I'm just being pessimistic.
Also, Stark asking who Happy was...saw it coming and loled when I read. Felt awful afterwards.

Re: Spoilers ahead (War Machine #7)

[identity profile] perrypadfoot.livejournal.com 2009-07-04 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Let's not forget that nearly anytime somebody comes from the future (Ie. Gert in Runaways, Iron Lad/miniKang in Young Avengers) they tend to drop the name "Iron Woman" at least once. My guess since I first heard it was that it was Pepper.

Either that or Tony turns into a lady permanantly, which, you know, would be hilariously awesome.

Also? Dick of Death is both a great name for a band and an explaination of why they killed off Steve and Jan!

Yes. Yes, I went there. It's kind of like SG-1's Sam Carter's Black Widow's Curse that whoever she kisses dies.
muccamukk: Wanda walking away, surrounded by towering black trees, her red cloak bright. (Normal?)

Re: Spoilers ahead (War Machine #7)

[personal profile] muccamukk 2009-07-04 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
Mighty Avengers, early in the Hank Pym run, had Tony running about okaydokayfine too.

New Avengers is resoundingly ignoring Ms Marvel.

-shrugs- comics.