IIM #20-Stark Dissasembled

[sassafras-root.livejournal.com]

Hello! I mostly lurk because I'm a little shy, but I've been really enjoying this comm a lot. Besides the great fic/art, there's really smart discussions here. I was wondering what everyone's reactions to the latest Iron Man comic that came out today. This comm seems pretty Tony-friendly and can discuss his flaws without the kneejerk "he's a douche and should die" reactions.

Without going into any spoilers, I was really, really disappointed. I was looking forward to this arc after reading Fraction's interviews (I was mixed on World's Most Wanted) and I thought it would be good for the character but this first issue left me kind of cold. Plus, the thing with Pepper just seemed off to me.

What were your opinions, if you got the issue? Does anyone have some hopes for what this arc will do for Tony's character? What do you hope the Tony/Steve reunion scene will be like (I'm afraid to get my hopes up for that, too)?

Comments

Re: Okay, I can see that

[muccamukk]

And perhaps, he's decided to break this habit.
And good for him if he has. But there's been no lead up to that frame of mind. Not now, and not in the period of canon where he recorded that message. I don't want to say that he shouldn't grow out of unhealthy habits, just that this particular change came way, way out of left field for me.

But how is he screwing everyone over?
Sorry. I was unclear, I meant past screwing over.

I so see what you mean though, and what is basically an unconditional surrender of himself could be a very interesting, and very Tony, gesture. And if you wrote that story, I'd probably love it, but the writing on this one just bugs me. To tell you why exactly, I'd have to read it a third time, and I'm not sure I'm willing to do that.

Re: Okay, I can see that

[valtyr]

what is basically an unconditional surrender of himself could be a very interesting, and very Tony, gesture.

That's what I thought was going on when Osborn was all "Don Blake? Who?" and I really liked it. But the video message just... didn't sell it. Because it didn't seem unconditional anymore.

Oh, okay! I see your point now.

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

And good for him if he has. But there's been no lead up to that frame of mind. Not now, and not in the period of canon where he recorded that message. I don't want to say that he shouldn't grow out of unhealthy habits, just that this particular change came way, way out of left field for me.

Yes, I agree with this comment. The fact is, Fraction had twelve issues to place a smoking rifle or get the old lampshade out, but he didn't. That's sloppiness on his part right there. Oh Fraction *shakes head*

but the writing on this one just bugs me. To tell you why exactly, I'd have to read it a third time, and I'm not sure I'm willing to do that.

Again, I can understand this point too. Honestly, I'm not trying to be difficult (I'm having this discussion in cap_im and scans_daily), but I must say, I'm rather annoyed at the knee jerk opinions that just end with "Tony is a dick" and I'm like, "So, is this news?" which is why I keep poking at people. I do have my own issues with the story and how it is presented, but it doesn't seem to conflate with what I'm reading at all, so I do wonder if I'm reading it right at all - and no, Fraction's work isn't that deep for layers of meaning either.

I think what gets me here is probably Tony's callousness towards Pepper than anything. Then I'm wondering if I need to unpack my attitudes re: gender politics towards Tony and Pepper but man... that's what really bugs me. What he did to Pepper.