ext_115502 ([identity profile] sassafras-root.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2009-11-25 11:47 pm

IIM #20-Stark Dissasembled

Hello! I mostly lurk because I'm a little shy, but I've been really enjoying this comm a lot. Besides the great fic/art, there's really smart discussions here. I was wondering what everyone's reactions to the latest Iron Man comic that came out today. This comm seems pretty Tony-friendly and can discuss his flaws without the kneejerk "he's a douche and should die" reactions.

Without going into any spoilers, I was really, really disappointed. I was looking forward to this arc after reading Fraction's interviews (I was mixed on World's Most Wanted) and I thought it would be good for the character but this first issue left me kind of cold. Plus, the thing with Pepper just seemed off to me.

What were your opinions, if you got the issue? Does anyone have some hopes for what this arc will do for Tony's character? What do you hope the Tony/Steve reunion scene will be like (I'm afraid to get my hopes up for that, too)?

Re: soulmates, wtf?

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2009-11-26 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Tony/Whitney is so close to being OTP for me. Sigh sigh. Fraction seriously misunderstood the character. Bendis' version was miles better, and I tend to take Bendis' characterizations with a grain of salt.

Re: soulmates, wtf?

[identity profile] hohaiyee.livejournal.com 2009-11-27 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Tony and Whitney is like, my Wesley/Lilah (Angel) for my Marvel fandom, not exactly healthy, but woooo. I really would have been impressed if Tony chose Whitney and meant it, and the ramification therein (considering he also loves Pepper, just not that way).

With Steve/Tony, I like the ever present h/c factor because Tony always thinks he isn't good enough AND he places Steve on pedestal, sometimes Steve realise it (more so in MA verse), sometimes he don't, he forgets how good Tony is at hiding his injuries, stays too mad at him for his stubbornness, and we have Civil War :(.

Dude, with Whitney and Tony, I don't know who's more messed up, but they both hide insecurity with contempt and sarcasm (especially when with each other)? I do like that scene where she was sitting on him, being mad at him for the brain deletey thing and almost grieving, ah, so much potential (someone needs to write that fic where she fucks him while he's on the floor, to the kink meme!)

The problem with Steve is that he frequently underestimate how self-destructive Tony is, but he's much more protective of Tony than Tony is of himself. With Whitney however, Whitney's foremost concern is probably still at whether or not Tony was with her out of pity, due to her face, and I can so see Whitney hurting Tony a lot over this, and Tony just letting her.

Re: soulmates, wtf?

[identity profile] schmevil.livejournal.com 2009-12-01 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Tony and Whitney were actually functional for a while. The problem is that they have too many issues for one relationship, and things fell apart. Not to mention all the complications that arise from them being who they are: him being Iron Man and Tony Stark; her father being a giant nut bag. I think in some what if world, it could have worked out, if they'd both had some time to work their shit out, without all the comic book drama intruding. ;)

Of course, after they broke up, Whitney took a turn for the seriously crazy. Bendis writes her more like classic Whitney, and not hermit!Whitney. idek what Fraction is doing. DDD: That's some seriously old canon he's working from, especially considering that Whitney seems pretty content with and well matched by Parker. So yeah.

You know, there's an interesting story in a Whitney/Tony/Steve triangle.