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[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

Soooo . . New Steve outfit?






My first though is . . . OMG Ultimate!Steve has attacked and replaced 616 Steve.

I don't know about anyone else, but my canon is that Steve went to Bucky and asked Bucky for some rejected design that Bucky didn't use because he didn't have time to come up for something for himself. So Bucky gave him this one. Steve then asked why Bucky didn't use it because it look far less goofy and Bucky said he felt obligated to have wings on his head. But then in all seriousness, with the uncovered head and the general look, he'd passed on it because he felt the costume looked more like and updating of his Bucky uniform then it did of Cap's uniform.

Five hours later what Bucky said finally sinks in and Steve goes HEY! Wait a second, and runs after Bucky.

Anyway
It's not that I dislike the outfit. I actually think i'ts spiffy. It's just not a 616 Steve Rogers look in my mind. It's a Bucky Barnes or Ultimate Steve Rogers look.

On the other hand, relevant to this community, I think Tony would adore this. *L*

Comments

[cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com]

Jesus, I haven't heard this much costume whining since the first X-Men movie came out. Oh, no, the guy who's likely going to be leading the espionage team doesn't have a brilliantly bright, easily recognized costume!

And yet you all adored it when he was wearing the generic SHIELD ops garb, which is solid black.

[ani-bester.livejournal.com]

. . . But it is bright and easily recognizable.
At least the black made sense.

but like I said I don't dislike the look it just doesn't say 616!Steve" it says "Bucky" and the Cap comics have made big deal after big deal after big deal over the difference in how Cap does things and ow Bucky does things.

Not that I doubt Steve can mind, but it's a personality thing. I'm wait and see myself.

But honestly, people seem pretty willing to work with it here, except the gun. This is nowhere near hat I saw with X-Men or even on the Iron Man redesign when it popped on S_D

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[cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com]

. . . But it is bright and easily recognizable.

Tell that to the people complaining it doesn't look "brilliant", "iconic" or "superhero-y" enough. This does not read as "Bucky" to me, and I don't understand where the fuck you people are getting that, other than the fact that oh, noes, it's too serious an outfit for a lofty character such as Cap. This reads as "ops" mixed with design. Which people seem to be forgetting that for all his wonderful speeches and propaganda posters, the supersoldier program, and by default Steve, is based entirely in that. Why can't he dress the part for a change without people assuming there's going to be a personality rewrite with it?

And yes, normally, Cap doesn't carry a gun, because before, he had the shield to rely on. But fuck, for all we know, it has stun bullets or is a sonic weapon, or shoots nets or whatever the fuck non-lethal ammo he'd choose. Maybe it even shoots little tiny shield replicas. This is a world where time machines are normal and DNA can be re-written with a blink, and where supposedly-dead ex-wives exist as new dimensions. The first Secret Avengers mission is going to involve remnants of Hydra bases on fucking Mars, for Christ's sake. Until they actually have him put a real live lead bullet in someone, use some damn imagination, people.

[cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com]

(and though I was being hyperbolic, if it does shoot little tiny shields, I want one, like, now.)

[valtyr]

Well, there's a difference between "Steve looks hot in a SHIELD uniform" and "Steve is going to be wearing this for the foreseeable future".

I find it puzzling that he is on a 'secret' team, and that his mini is about 'superspy' stuff. They're both written by Brubaker, who loves his noir.

Brubaker is rabbiting on about how Steve is a master of disguise (like that time he dressed up as a six foot six old lady, no doubt) and is expert in various forms of weapons (yeah, he's barely used a gun for a decade, expertise does degrade over time) so Brubaker does seem to be taking the character in a new direction. Steve really hasn't spent a lot of time on covert ops since he got unfrozen.

It's not a particularly bad costume. But it's not particularly interesting. And I'm very doubtful about the direction Steve's character is taking, and that doubt is probably reflected in my lack of interest in this adequate costume.

[cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com]

Considering certain parts of Brubaker's OTP handling and Steve having to be more or less prodded back into the fray (yes, there was that "If you need me" bit with Obama, but he's also shown a lot of apprehension about it, and was perfectly happy to let Bucky keep his role. If it weren't for Osborn being such a huge threat, that probably would have been played on mnore), I was almost expecting Steve to go "You know what? Y'all can have this hero stuff. I'm gonna go retire and have a big family with Sharon in the mountains somewhere." Compared to that, "new combat direction" is a breeze. I will say, though, that my ill ass finds it utterly hilarious that while it makes perfect sense for Nat to be on the covert team, Steve's essentially cockblocked Bucky while keeping Sharon close to him (she's gonna be the team's mission control, I think it was said?). And yes, I know Nat's gonna still be a supporter in Captain America, but it's still funny.

[valtyr]

You say that, but I would buy the shit out of a series devoted to Luke, Steve and Danny staying at home with the babies while Jess, Sharon and Misty went out and fought evil. The Marvel Adventures guys could write, and Amanda Connor would draw.

Steve is Bucky's older brother figure and therefore contractually obliged to cockblock him.