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illuminatius ([identity profile] illuminatius.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2010-06-01 12:24 am
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 Hey y'all. First post, yay. *ahem* 

I got a question about Tony's age. I know Steve was 27 when he got frozen, and is probably 30 (not counting the decades during which he was frozen) at this point, but how old is Tony? I can't find a birthday on Wiki, and I don't know if it has been mentioned in the comics. Anyone here know/have a rough estimate? 

[identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
I thought he said 85 in The Confession? He's definitely born July 4, 1922, according to current Marvel canon and the Handbook.

[identity profile] seanchai.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
There are three dates for Steve's birthday: July 4, 1917, July 4, 1921, and July 4, 1922. And what the writers are using as canon varies by, like, the issue sometimes ><.

Though it's pretty widely accepted that the 1917 date was only thrown out there once because it was when Jack Kirby was born, and pretty much no one ever uses it since there's no way Steve was 25 when he joined the Super Soldier project.

And according to Elspeth, he actually says he's 86 in The Confession. Thank God I've got her, 'cause I've got a sucky memory.
Edited 2010-06-01 06:30 (UTC)

[identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Dammit, now I want to look at the panel, but my hardcopy is in a box and my pdf is on another computer drive. He definitely was 1922 on the statue and in the last Handbook, so that's the canon Marvel is currently rolling with as a company. Brubaker's apparently rolling with 1920, but I think 1922 makes more sense for the character, having him immediately try to join the Army as soon as he reached legal age.

[identity profile] tavella.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
...or Brubaker's rolling with 1921 and moving Project Rebirth into 1941, despite that being after the actual first publication of Captain America. He's kind of handwavy about canon.

[identity profile] seanchai.livejournal.com 2010-06-01 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Brubaker's apparently rolling with 1920, but I think 1922 makes more sense for the character, having him immediately try to join the Army as soon as he reached legal age.

I definitely agree; it seems like such a Steve thing to do, especially since it's not like Germany wasn't trying to play Evil Overlord with Europe long before 1941. Plus, it means that you don't have any random, unaccounted for years in Steve's backstory, and that's generally a good thing.

And really, since Brubaker's been being Creepy McNon-Con lately, I feel no guilt in ignoring anything he's written that I don't like.