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For Marvel, when it comes to special events, they tend to approach it three deep, in that you have:

The main thrust of the event itself: for Civil War, there is just the comics dedicated to the event itself. Those are easy enough to find, considering there's a glut of trades scattering around now. So you can just buy/ read the trade that has the civil war itself.

A spin off from the events itself: For the event of Civil War, there's Frontlines part one and two - you don't need to read those. It's basically about Ben Urich and his team covering the war and being 'on the ground' so to speak.

Tie in issues of specific titles related to the event: So you have Civil War: New Avengers, Civil War: Iron Man, Civil War: Spiderman, et al.

That's as simple as I can explain it to you.

Hahaha in all honesty, you've made it much easier for me. I've been seeing many titles flying around and it's quite confusing as to where to start. I'm a new fan to the Marvel universe, been reading the newer stuff (The Invincible Iron Man, Avengers Prime, random issues of Captain America, etc), but I think it's probably time for me to look into the older stuff, especially where 'the big damn drama' started, LOL.

Thank you for this! Really appreciate it :D

With Marvel and the characters there are 40 years of canon there, along with character key moments. For instance, there is Tony Stark's Demon In The Bottle storyline with round one of his alcoholism (before round two when he goes to California and hits his problem with the bottle out for good). Or there's Steve Rogers and when he decides to renounce the mantle of Captain America and turn into nomad.

I think for this, Wikipedia and Marvel wiki can be very handy in terms getting an overview of the character's life and canon and then if you really like an arc, or if it sounds interesting, you can stick to that and write around it.

For instance, when I've written 616 fanfic (I'm mostly Ultimates fandom based), I tend to go, this story takes place during Vol X issues xxx-xxxx, because each arc has a different writer, and different writers have different approaches to the character's personalities, and I tend to base my fanfic around that (it's easier for me, anyway).

So yeah, I'd advise the following:

Read a wiki (Marvel wiki might be the best one, because they have the volume and issue numbers for the major storyline in the characters lives), then find an arc that interests you and read. If you approach it that way, it means that you have six issues of a story arc to grapple with, and you're pretty much sorted there.

I'm also just getting into Marvel canon, so I had to sort of make a list of what was what. In a lot of cases, just be aware that you'll be reading something, and then in the next tie-in the events of the last haven't happened yet, etc. It can get a bit confusing, but as long as you know the general time-line, you should be OK.

Also, what I found frustrating about CW was that the culminating event, Steven's death, wasn't in any of the stuff labeled Civil War, so the main book ends, then you cut to, say, Tony's Civil War tie-in and at the end Steve is already dead.

So my advice, based on what I read, would basically be:

Civil War
Captain America #25 (if you're just looking for the event itself)
Civil War: Captain America
Civil War: Iron Man
Anything other CW tie-in you're interested in. (I liked the New Avengers stuff.)
Fallen Son

If you're interested in Iron Man stuff, I made a list for myself to figure out what goes where of recent canon, most of which ties in with Civil War:

Extremis (issue #1-6)
Execute Program (7-12)
CIVIL WAR HAPPENS HERE
Civil War: Iron Man (13-14, Casualties of War, The Confession)
Director of SHIELD (15-18)
World War Hulk (19-20)
Haunted (21-28)
With Iron Hands (29-32)

ALL THE SKRULL STUFF (which I've yet to figure out the right reading order for)

Invincible Iron Man (Issue #1-19)
Invincible Iron Man: Stark Disassembled (#20-24)
Invincible Iron Man: Stark Resilient (#25-28)
ETC

Cap_Ironman Weekly News, Week Ending 12 September 2010

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There is 40 years of canon there

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