http://mozzarellaroses.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] mozzarellaroses.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2011-01-10 09:14 pm

So who else watched the show?

And by show, I mean the particularly adorable interaction between Tony and Steve in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, episode 17.

Any thoughts? Comments?

I personally liked the raw eggs bit ;P Does anyone REALLY do that?

And the way they're taking the series, one would think they'd put in ALL the big players in the 616 universe in the later 2000s in the show. I know it's a long shot hoping for the YA to pop up, but yeah, I really really want it to happen.

[identity profile] ollee.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen it... have a youtube link?

[identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
try witchcraftial's channel

[identity profile] ollee.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Sweetness! Why have I not watched this show?? I think my son and I are going to spend the rest of the day watching it. Yay!

Any episodes in particular that have any good Steve/Tony moments?

[identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Me! Me! Ooh, me! ;p

This was insane levels of adorable! I think I loved the whole casually breakfasting together thing... Also, futurist!Tony and artist!Steve (knowing about the 'futurist' art movement! \o/)... Though Tony's obvious man-crush from early episodes seems to have receded quite a bit (and replaced by some admiration by Cap, instead!)

Other than that I thought it was hilarious how puny/tiny Tony looked in comparison to Cap... Also Clint and Hulk are MEAN boys! ;p Steve should totally scold them for laughing at his (boy)friend!

I'd love the YA too, but I don't think it would be possible within the timeline of them show... I mean, even if Tommy and Billy only need to have been 'born' to Wanda and Vision a couple of years ago, they still do need to be born... And of course, Scott Lang needs to have made an appearance and Vision needs to be dead for Vision II!! Even Teddy is Captain Mar-Vell's kid, right? So.... difficult to explain... Maybe time-travel could work? *ponders*

[identity profile] marinarusalka.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Tony's man-crush didn't so much recede as enter the "I must impress the object of my affection by continually telling him how awesome I am" stage.

Sometimes, Tony is twelve.

The whole episode was so awesome. I think it might be my favorite so far. From the Steve/Tony interactions, to Hank saving the day with cockroaches, to Tony hacking Kang's tech, every scene made me squee.

[identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh! I approve of this. Very much! Thankfully. Steve seems to think Tony is just as awesome as that (and can be even awesomer if he tries!) so he doesn't mind... ;p

[identity profile] angel-inoshi.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I know Steve looks HUGE compared to Tony. I always assumed they were roughly the same size, but [grins] in this verse it makes for more Steve cuddling Tony happiness XDDDD I was half expecting Steve to turn around to Hulk and Clint to scold them or something, but...[snickers] it just improves on Tony's D8 at getting whooped.

[identity profile] dinahqueen.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
:D I lol'd. :D

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think they're actually still pretty much the same height. Steve's just got a lot more muscle mass (which is probably how it would be in the comics, too, since Steve's got the super-soldier serum while Tony's got Science! and a wide variety of ever-changing health issues, but the art doesn't always reflect that).

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm enjoying the Clint and Hulk interaction way more than I ever expected to (and also the Clint and T'challa - "Maybe they'll make you the leader now." "Really?" *eager, hopeful-eyed Clint is entirely oblivious to the sarcasm*)

Hmmm.... I agree that they couldn't fit the Young Avengers into the show's timeline unless it ran for about five-six years or something, but they could fit them in as guest stars in a second season episode if they totally removed the connection to Wanda from Billy and Tommy's backstory and made young!Vision a copy of Vision instead of a replacement, so the two of them could exist at the same time. I don't think I'd want time travel, unless it was an X-Men like "keep this awful dystopian future from happening" storyline, because that would mean Disassembled would have to happen in this verse, too.

A "no longer Wanda's reincarnated kids" origin story that allowed Billy and Tommy to exist without requiring her to be fridged first would be awesome, actually, especially since that origin story never made all that much sense anyway (if Wanda's twins hadn't died, they'd be around Franklin Richards' age, much younger than Billy and Tommy, so how can they be reincarnations of them? The timeline is all screwy).

[identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Haha... Yeah, the Hulk and Clint are hilarious yet unexpected... I don't think they've had any such hitory in the comics, right?

As for the YA,I just remembered... Wasn't Teddy supposed to have been conceived during the first Kree/Skrull War? (The one they're setting up right now?) Or was it some previous unseen thing?

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't remember Clint and the Hulk really being buddies, but Clint has some cute interaction with She-Hulk in a couple of places. (IIRC, they first meet when one of them rear-ends the other's car, or something minor car-crash-related with lots of shouting. Then Clint comes home and is all "You would not believe the obnoxious woman I met in traffic today! Oh, uh, hi, new Avengers member. Wait, it's you!")

If Teddy was conceived during the first Kree-Skrull war, he ought to be way younger than he is, so I'm going to guess some earlier, unseen thing. That, or timeline screwiness. And speaking of screwy timelines, it's just occurred to me that they could also make Billy and Tommy Wanda and Vision's twins (actual twins rather than reincarnations) from some alternate future timeline and get around the "Wanda has to meet Vision, marry him, have kids, etc. before the show can introduce them." The X-Men got at least three "Scott Summers' future offspring" members that way.
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[identity profile] villainxatxhert.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
i loved this episode! the breakfast together was just adorable and then the rest of their interactions throughout were good too.

There was the full body scan thing Tony did. And did anyone else notice how Steve kept touching Tony? It seemed like there was always a friendly hand on the shoulder or a helping hand up. i hope their interactions keep getting touchier...

[identity profile] dinahqueen.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I did notice that Cap was rather touchy-feely. It must be that all of his senses are enhanced and uh-

He likes the texture? :D

Or, you know, he can't keep his hands off :3.

[identity profile] angel-inoshi.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
This ep. was full of so many wins I loved it to pieces. The raw eggs bit was hilarious - I know I had Tony's reaction and went (O_o) And I know there are some bodybuilders who do drink raw eggs in order to get the "full benefit of the protein" since cooking them destroys it or something.

I enjoyed how Steve seems to touch Tony quite a bit and the fighting lesson - HA! Poor Tony - it was great watching him go "Uuugh, what just happened?" Personally, it looked like Steve was having fun knocking Tony on his butt. 8D

But I think what was interesting was how both Tony and Steve were proven right in their ideals. Tony was right about technology having an edge in a fight as proven when *SPOILER*Kang wiped the floor with the Avengers*/SPOILER* And then Steve was proven right when *SPOILER*Tony looked to the "basics" in order to save everyone.*/SPOILER*

The only way I can see the Young Avengers making a cameo is if they do a window to all the possible futures - you know to prove to show Kang's future isn't set in stone sort of thing.

[identity profile] dinahqueen.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, this episode was amazing, I agree. I had the same reaction as Tony did. But some people do that, and it's absolutely disgusting, I bet. And dangerous, being raw, and such.

Yeah, I like how Steve feels on Tony as well. But the reactions Tony had were rather awesome too. Just because it's got to be so humiliating (especially with Hawkeye and Hulk in the background.) And yeah, Steve looked way too smug doing that.

I also enjoyed how both points were proven right. Not how I expected it to be, however. I thought Kang's shield would be low impact and that fists and such would be able to get through. But I liked how they did it too! :D

[identity profile] gogglehead84.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked that they finally had some scenes together. As for the story, this show is just EPIC.

[identity profile] dinahqueen.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I just watched it and it was so amazing. I loved their interactions, it was so wonderful.

Man, I was surprised by the size differential too, but it makes sense, really. :D

I loved that whole conversation at breakfast, especially Tony's like "newspapers suck!" and Steve's like "this one proves you suck- at fighting". Bwahaha. And I did love Hulk and Hawkeye playing the parts of Waldorf and Sattler for the duration of a fight.

I love this show so much! :D

[identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com 2011-01-10 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh... Just watched the Tony and Steve parts again! EEP! Its even shippier at second go!

The little smile Tony gives himself when Steve tells him to meet hin in the training room? Then when Cap and Tony are suiting up (just before Kang shows up) the smile Cap sends Tony's way? *EEP* Also, oh god, Cap is really ridiculously touchy-feely in this!

And is it just me or was there a story on this comm, where Tony and Steve are discussing newspapers and the future thereof in pretty similar terms as the program?

[identity profile] viva-la-yaoi.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Ahaha, I was such a happy fan when I watched yesterday's episode. I seriously adore how they portray the characters. The only thing I can’t figure out though is why on Earth Tony was eating tofu of all things.

I wonder when they’ll bring up Tony’s heart problem though. I had thought about it before, but it was only until the fight scene where you can obviously see the Arc Reactor under Tony’s tank top that I remembered that Tony hasn’t told them about his heart problem. No one seemed surprised at the fact that part of Tony’s chest was glowing though? Also, I wonder if his workaholic tendencies and depression/low self-esteem are going to be making any appearances later on.

The sheer size difference between Steve and Tony shocked me for a second until I paused and realized that Steve really is only maybe two inches taller than Tony. The reason he looks so much bigger is because he has so much more muscle mass than Tony (also, he has really broad shoulders). Which makes sense if you think about it.

Also, maybe it's just because I haven't really noticed it with anyone else, but out of everyone with aliases, it seems to me that Steve only calls Tony by his real name. Or maybe it’s just that he calls out Tony’s name more than anyone else’s. Either way, he certainly touches Tony more than anyone else in the show, as others have mentioned.

[identity profile] fictivore.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! So that's what he was eating... I wondered... Maybe it's a throwback to the part in Movie 2 where Tony is all "must eat healthy"? [Foreshadowing of health problems?]

Yeah, I can't see him volunteering information about a potential handicap to anyone... Maybe, no one's just asked him yet? (No one wants to be the first to ask and everyone thinks that it probably just some eccentric rich guy tech-head thing?)

As for all the mental issues, I occurs to me, that what with Ultron now being Tony and Hank's, once the sudden yet inevitable betrayal happens, we might get to see BOTH of them fall apart with their classic issues... Could be verrry interesting....

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Kang finally makes an appearance in-story! I know he's kind of silly and silver age-tastic and goofy-looking, but old school!Kang the Conqueror is one of my favorite non-Ultron, non-Wrecking Crew Avengers villains.

I love that Steve and Tony spar together - it's like a brilliant little bit of shipper fanon onscreen. Also, breakfast! Hank being heroic with Science! There are moments when watching this is like seeing some of the best parts of MA-verse animated.

[identity profile] jucti.livejournal.com 2011-01-11 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Just delurking to say this episode really impressed me. I think the show's finally hit it's stride.

This kind of make me wonder if this is what we have to look forward to from the Avengers movie, considering that this Tony is basically movie!Tony-lite. Because if it is, I'll be a happy man.

And am I the only one that was expecting them to pull that joke from Gamma World back and have the Hulk suddenly turn back into Bruce while laughing at Tony? Because that would have made this episode perfect ( I like Bruce's interactions with Clint about as much as I like the Hulk's interactions with him, plus that adorable motherfucker never gets enough screen time)

*lurk*

[identity profile] bluehopex.livejournal.com 2011-04-29 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Im so late to this party! I was just trying to look around in some older posting and i find this!
Im sorry i couldn´t help but to comment this.
I love that breakfest scene. (I love the whole show! Mostly tony.) When i saw the episode i couldn´t help but to get the the-morning-after-they-got-togheter-feeling or even that they had been togheter a while:). And Steve was like now-when-we-finally-gotten-togheter-im- soo-have-the rigth-to-tell-him-he-needs-to-learn-how-to-fight-and-im-so-going-to-learn-him-some-basics-before-he-gets-killed.
And all the touching! It was like Steve couldn´t keep his hand´s of him. And Tony soo checked him out when he scanned him. And then he chosed steve over the faith of the world...I LOVE THIS SHOW.
Maybe im just seeing too much in this but i don´t care it was fun and sweet either way:) Lol.