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cap_ironman2011-01-24 07:55 pm
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comic questions
Sorry if this is against the rules, I did read them but I may have missed it. My comic store has civil war in one hand hardbook. I want to read the parts after steve's death, that should be in it right? Also, what I'm worried about is moments that make me yell "no! you cannot beat up your best friend/boyfriend" and unfortunatly I've read a lot of things about this part that make me cringe. What do you think? How much of after steve death vs. steve and tony arguing was in this part of the comics?
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And can anyone tell me if I'm correct in thinking that Avengers Prime (Cap, Iron Man and Thor lost in Asgard) does not take place in the same universe as Civil War? I'm reading what I can get from the library before I start buying stuff, so I'm reading out of order and I'm a bit confuzzled (yay library).
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Steve dies in Civil War. Tony gets to be director of SHIELD. He makes Bucky Cap in Steve's place. Aliens invade (Secret Invasion Event). Tony falls out of favour and is replaced by Norman Osborne (Dark Reign Event). Steve comes back from the dead in a mini that made no sense whatsoever, and I do mean AT ALL, called Captain America Reborn. Norman Osborn decides to attack Asgard (Siege event). At this point, Steve hasn't had much time to talk to Bucky, so they are both dressed as Cap.
Then continuity gets really, really confusing. However, essentially: Steve talks to Obama and gets made leader of SHIELD (sort of, as there is no SHIELD). He talks to Bucky and agrees that Bucky should remain Captain America. Possibly not in that order. Right after that, Avengers Prime happens.
Is that helpful or more confusing?
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This explains a lot of the complaints I've read about lack of continuity and Marvel authors not bothering to read the stuff other Marvel authors are putting out, despite being supposedly part of the same universe (rather than all the alternate universes. Marvel Adventures made me go "whaaa?!" several times. Still fun to read, though).
I promise I've actually checked out some of the wiki's, trying to get a sense of what happens when, but it's still kinda wacky. And some of them are overly abbreviated, while others go into way too much detail.
I appreciate the help!
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One other note! The 'reason' Tony is wearing old armor in 'Avengers Prime' is because it's supposed to be the old set given to Steve by Jarvis during Seige.
So... even though Steve has been busy getting put in charge directly after Siege (as muccamukk explained) Tony was still in the old armor just hanging about fallen Asgard recovering from heart surgery/lightening etc.
His newer 'bleeding edge' armor could be said to be up and running after he chats to Reed Richards in IIM v5 #25.
Maybe.
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And if I get the urge to write anything, I won't worry about canon either.
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I'm pretty sure it does that in Civil War, too. There the Millar-written issue where Maria Hill attacks him in his apartment in Brooklyn and he jumps out the window into the back of a fighter plane and the apartment is destroyed, and then there are later Brubaker and Bendis written issues of NA and CA that I swear feature the DUMBO apartment still being intact.
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