Discussion for Avengers Vol 3 Issue 1 (Second Half)

[garrideb.livejournal.com]

Scans for the second half of issue 1 can be found here if you weren't able to get a hardcopy. Just remember to come back to the community for discussion!

Scans for the first half are here.
Discussion for the first half is here.

• Evil women and the twilight sword. For that matter, Wanda and the world turning white. Are the similarities in future storylines deliberate? If so, what do they contribute?


• In the scene where Cap's quinjet is caught in a whirlwind, one panel is on its side, complete with sideways word balloons. Would you have designed that page differently?


• What's the slashiest moment: Steve and Tony whispering to each other during Thor's speech, Steve thinking of Tony's feelings while the world disappears, or Sandman defending Spidey? (Anyone want to fill in a non-Spidey fan what their deal is?)


• On what other villains should Pietro use his speed-stripping technique?

Scans for issue 2 are up here, and will be discussed on Monday, February 29th.

Comments

[garrideb.livejournal.com]

Fair enough. I've read a wide variety of comics, including manga, so for me the expressions don't seem outlandish, or the dialogue particularly hammy. But if it feels that way to you, I can see why it would be hard to read.

Maybe Cap suggested it? "Tony, I know your armor is very functional, but sometimes a superhero costume has to be more than that. It has to stand for the ideals we uphold, strike fear into the hearts of villains, and comfort civilians. I think everyone would agree that the 'A' and wings on my mask do those things. Have you ever thought of decorating your helmet?"

Or maybe just, "Tony, sky safety is very important. Add some lights so planes can see you."

[misswalstra.livejournal.com]

This has gotten me wondering how many safety speeches Cap has given Tony.

[garrideb.livejournal.com]

Someone should do a 5 Times fic for that. Especially if one of them was Cap lecturing Tony on the dangers of fishing bread out of the toaster with a fork.

[misswalstra.livejournal.com]

THIS x1000. I love anything that supports the Tony being banned from kitchen appliances idea.
And Steve is so good at giving speeches.

[elspethdixon.livejournal.com]

"Five times Steve lectured Tony on safety precautions, and one time Tony flipped out at Steve for never wearing a motorcycle helmet*."


*It bothers me, okay? He's got the shield on his back to protect his spine, but he doesn't have a healing factor or anything, so one crash on that sexy v3 motorcycle while wearing just his costume and he's dead.

[garrideb.livejournal.com]

Please write it! Or wait... did you? I mean, were helmets discussed in the fic where Steve crashes at the beginning?

[fictivore.livejournal.com]

*am dead of laughing* SKY SAFETY! Oh God! Makes it does make you wonder if there have ever been any flying superheroes vs plane near-collisions? *wince* ugh, if a little bird can crash one of those, maybe the lights aren't such a bad idea after all.... D:

[fictivore.livejournal.com]

Wow... that was bit of a mood whiplash, wasn't it? *wincewincewince*

[garrideb.livejournal.com]

LOL, it kind of was. I'm almost positive there have been superheroes vs. planes near-collisions, especially with new superheroes learning how to fly. Tony probably doesn't have to worry unless he's being mind-controlled or his armor malfunctions, but that wouldn't stop Steve from worrying, I'm sure. ;-)

[elspethdixon.livejournal.com]

Well, Carol actually crashed one in canon during her alcoholism arc. Although IIRC she may actually have been trying to throw Tony into it/hit Tony with it/I think it involved an "I just want to help you"/"leave me the hell alone" shouty mid-air rage match between the two of them, anyway.

[flufflenecharka.livejournal.com]

I've debated this with my parents. /nerdage

Basically if Tony did that there would be multiple crimes he could be charged with - off the top of my head is endangerment of minors and destruction of property if it's a commercial flight - and the lack of adherence to rules as basic as flight plans and transmissions broadcasting that yes there is something headed your way would get his pilot's lisence revoked if it weren't for the fact that he has none. If Tony, say, takes off a wing via collision and thus ensures the death of multiple people, you could argue for the air equivalent of reckless driving and flying under the influence would very certainly get his ass some jail time, before we even factor in that causing a crash can be considered manslaughter.

And that's Tony, who has money for lawyers. Other heroes would not get off as lightly. But I can't fathom Tony having NOT accounted for at least basic levels of sky safety. In IMAA he has back up systems specifically designed to, if he's crashing, at least let him control the direction and impact of his fall. Kind of like how most planes are designed to keep the landing gear controls alive and the very basic directional controls in tact even if you've got virtually no power left.

Also I know you meant planes but now my mind is picturing an Invader Zim-esque situation where a bird/bee/bug smacks into Tony's face and causes an embarrassing crash.

/Late

[flufflenecharka.livejournal.com]

My dad, who is a pilot, assures me that the manuverability of the armor versus a plane would make it very much Tony's fault if there was a collision; but it's a good covering-my-ass-legally failsafe regardless. The IMAA version has Tony noting that light pollution from NYC has made it hard for him not to be seen even at night, but that's within city limits.

I like the mental image of Tony explaining this to Steve and Steve not buying any of it. "What if you crashed and we needed to find you at night?"