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garrideb ([identity profile] garrideb.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2011-02-28 07:24 am

Discussion for Avengers Vol 3 Issue 2

We're on to issue 2, with only one issue remaining in this story! If you couldn't get a copy, you can find scans here.

Need to catch up?
Issue 1 part 1 scans are here and discussion is here.
Issue 1 part 2 scans are here and discussion is here.



  • First of all, the cover I have scanned is a variant. The original is this one. Which style do you prefer? And how, generally, do you feel about variant covers? TL;DR is welcome.

  • Hawkeye says, "The easiest Avengers to snap out of it are going to be the ones with the strongest sense of being Avengers - the strongest sense of spirit. Well, I've got some ideas of who to try." Cap responds, "So do I." Hawkeye 'wakes up' Jan and Monica, while Cap heads for Tony. Discuss.

  • Hawkeye later says, "Iron Man's a good guy, normally - but he's waaay too into his whole Nobleman/Lord of the Manor trip. That spell musta hit him right where he lives!" Is there a better explanation?

  • You can never discuss AU identities and costumes too much. Which ones stood out?

  • Morgan is a very arrogant villain who plays with her enemy rather than defeat it outright. Do you find these kinds of villains fun or frustrating?



The scans for issue 3, which will wrap up this story, are here. I tried brightening the pages in photoshop, hope that helps. Remember, don't comment there! Do that on this comm on Thursday, March 3rd.

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[identity profile] cosmicbiscuit.livejournal.com 2011-03-01 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
If you like Busiek's Jan, then Roger Stern's run on Avengers is a most excellent place to start, as Busiek himself cited Stern as his inspiration for her handling. He had a very short run on the title, then was brought in as the regular writer after a period of switching scribes almost every issue. Having gotten The Infamous Slap and Hank's mental breakdown, as well as Jan's impulsive idea to become Chairperson dropped on the characters by Jim Shooter, who did it merely because he felt they needed a shake-up, Stern was the one who pushed both Hank and Jan to grow from the mess, leading to Hank reclaiming himself and proving his innocence after being accused of turning villain, and Jan growing up and gaining the ability and confidence to lead the team, to the point that even Captain America approved of her. He was also responsible for creating Monica Rambeau and guiding her from a newbie unsure of her ability to take up the Captain Marvel mantle, to a confident, compassionate, witty badass who also had a tenure as Avengers leader (which Mark Gruenwald later screwed up, but that's not as important right now). He was also the original creator of the West Coast team.