Another Interview Link: Captain America and The Starks

[fictivore.livejournal.com]

This one is a really interesting interview with the writers of Captain America about Steve and his relationship with the Starks. It seems most Marvel writers themselves are really really looking forward to seeing how the Cap and Tony relationship plays out in the Avengers. It looks more and more like that movie is going to be EPIC! \o/

Exclusive: The Captain America writers tell us about the conflict between Cap and Iron Man 

Favourite Quotes:

+   "What really fascinated me in the back of my head as we were writing it is that, OK, Steve is fighting alongside this guy [Howard], next year he's going to be fighting alongside his son, who is going to appear to actually be older than his father and older than Steve. None of that is in the movie [explicitly], but it's all extra gravy." 

+   "It's safe to say that in The Avengers they [Cap and Tony] certainly have friction."

             -(Haha, I know it's never going to be the really fun kind of friction, but the simply fun kind is okay too! ;D)

ENJOY!
(Goddammit, still have a *week* before they release the movie in my city. It's out in my country!!! Just not where I can watch it. >:[ )

Comments

[liarashadowsong.livejournal.com]

Fondue as a euphemism is love. Want to see it in Avengers, all right!

[notuninvisible.livejournal.com]

Fondue is the world's most perfect euphemism. And I like the idea of Tony being the one, for once, who doesn't get innuendo. That can't happen very often.

[liarashadowsong.livejournal.com]

I also like the idea of Tony not getting innuendo, for once. I'm sure he'd figure it out eventually, but it'd be a nice novelty while it lasted. Tee hee hee. The question is how Tony'll react to the knowledge, once he does figure out what "fondue" is standing in for. And I'm sure he'll get Steve to try actual cheese fondue, just because he'd find it amusing (and Steve'd blush like mad while eating it?).

[notuninvisible.livejournal.com]

I can see Tony, upon realizing what fondue means, deciding it must be an old timey sexytiems phrase and trying to use it on Steve, who is legitimately convinced from then on that Starks like cheese and bread. He doesn't pick up on the sexual undertones because it's Steve and hey, Howard wanted the same food and he didn't date Peggy so it must be a craving!

Cue Steve fighting with the internet for a fondue recipe and, after failing, going out and acquiring a cookbook to teach him how to make this magical Stark attracting substance.

The real kicker is, Tony doesn't even like cheese. He just eats it because he doesn't want Steve to stop being nice to him.

[liarashadowsong.livejournal.com]

Hahaha. Oh, poor silly Steve and his lack of knowledge about sexual things and innuendo and flirting (it took him how long to figure out Peggy liked him, even before the serum?).

Steve battling the internet is love. I mean, I'm sure he can figure out how to use a computer, eventually; he's certainly quite intelligent, if occasionally dense about certain things and stubborn as all get-out. If not, JARVIS can help. The problem is whether or not Steve knows how to spell "fondue"; I just found an easy recipe on allrecipes.com in about ten seconds, but then again, I have experience using google, and knew how to spell what I was typing in. I can see Steve trying to find a "1001 Cheese Recipes" book because his google-fu fails, fresh out of the ice. And possibly getting distracted by one or more of the other tasty recipes? (Does Steve like cheese? Did he even ever eat cheese much? I mean, pre-serum, he was skinny as a rail and that ninety pound thing may not even be an exaggeration, Lord only knows what he ate or how much, and after he'd be eating whatever it was that was available in the mess hall or in rations that day, depending on where he was. Actually being able to have whatever he damn well pleases to eat and/or drink whenever he likes after getting thawed out might make for some interesting times around the Avengers Mansion... I'm picturing him being all gleeful over there being fresh, non-canned veggies from Lord-only-knows-where in the middle of winter. Steve with lima beans. Picture it. You know you want to. Plus with the speed he metabolizes alcohol at, his body probably goes through everything that fast, and post-serum was probably like "holy shit, I'm eating at least three times as much as before and am still hungry all the damn time, what the hell is up with this", leading to him crossing paths with Tony wandering around the Avengers Mansion at three in the bloody morning because Tony is a workaholic insomniac and probably drinks coffee in the middle of the night because he is nuts like that, and Steve is too hungry to be able to sleep without raiding the fridge. Again. And why do I keep coming up with these things? I'm not a good enough writer to fic my meta properly, and I don't even know if it's good meta or my brain going too fast. Dammit. I may or may not have ADHD... and I don't feel like going and trying to get diagnosed, because I've functioned well enough the last twenty three years. AKA ignore Liara when she stops making sense.)

I can see the last part of yours happening. I can also see Tony going "Well, actually, there's two different types of fondue, cheese and chocolate. My dad liked the cheese kind, but I like the chocolate version." And then having chocolate sauce handy with which to seduce Steve, instead of being talked into eating something he doesn't even like to have an excuse to flirt with Steve? Something like that. (And now I'm thinking of Girl Genius. "I wouldn't have your Master Gilgamesh if you stripped him naked and dipped him in cheese!" God, why does my mind wander so much? And in such odd directions; one would think my mind would migrate to Steve/Tony food porn at this point, but noooooo.)

[notuninvisible.livejournal.com]

Oh God you're a fountain of fanfic ideas. Steve walking around chowing down on oranges out of season because they're so good. He downs cheesecake he could never afford before with joy. Chinese food delivery guys get to know him on a first name basis. "I can eat anything and I'll never have consequences" + everything is available + SHIELD picking up the tab = Steve eating out of a tub of Hagen-Daahz while Tony wonders if Steve's pregnant.

My first boyfriend downed several gallons of sutei tsai (salty milk-tea; it's an acquired taste) in the name of keeping me happy. Presumably when Tony is actually in love and not just attracted he'd be like, "Cheese. Sweet. Thanks!"

[notuninvisible.livejournal.com]

I'm going to write this. It'll be up soon. I can't stop thinking about this now. Steve walks into the food court at the mall and with tears in his eyes whispers, "The promised land!" and Tony's quietly wondering if it's okay to have an intervention for food addiction...

[notuninvisible.livejournal.com]

I'm terrified I'll ruin it because English isn't my native language. But I can't resist the allure of this idea. I'm so weak. XD

[notuninvisible.livejournal.com]

Ah, thank you very much. I may have to delay for a day to run it by a beta, though. Better safe than sorry. I wouldn't want to get a laugh for the wrong reasons.

[notuninvisible.livejournal.com]

It's always good to double check things. I don't want to be like the exchange student in my middle school who said 'I smell a leg' rather than 'the fox sweats' due to misplaced letters.

[liarashadowsong.livejournal.com]

I can try to write one of these, too, maybe. But I keep meaning to write down my ideas in fic form and it just keeps not happening, possibly because during the school year I am super busy. Then again, that doesn't explain why classes ended a month ago and there's still not fic happening, except for the part where I was on vacation, and some weeks my part time job involves more hours than other weeks, and I occasionally have summer assignments (actually I have one due Friday, better get back to that). So... maybe, maybe not? Also: Tony wondering if Steve's pregnant... well, if he's supposed to be physically some sort of peak of human perfection, it wouldn't be completely out of left field for that to also include having both fully functional male and female reproductive organs, to make it easier to pass on the genes, with any partner chosen regardless of what sex? *gigglesnort* I do not think the super soldier serum would actually work like that, but Tony might wonder, if presented with enough evidence of Steve eating weird things, blah blah blah. ;P

[liarashadowsong.livejournal.com]

I'm a fountain of fanfic ideas, yes, thank you. But I'm not a fountain of fanfic, unfortunately, which is the big problem here! I have dozens of ideas bouncing in my head, and none of them ever get written. Which is why I just brain-vomit all over discussion threads, in hopes that someone else will write the fic instead. I keep meaning to write this Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess gender-bender fic that should be a ton of fun, but it keeps not happening. So I dunno if any of my dozen new Captain America plot bunnies are ever going to get penned by me personally. Including this one really weird one where Steve is with Bucky for a while during the war, and then when he wakes up in the present... well, it involves Steve/Tony and reincarnation, and I don't know how to make it not come out really really cheesy and forced-sounding and cloying, so that one isn't getting written for a different reason than the other ones.

(I don't like cheesecake unless it's chocolate, but I can see Steve being like "OMG cheesecake? I saw this in a bakery before, but I could never afford to get even one slice of it, and now you are buying a whole one just for me? *gleeful*" Also, the ability to get fresh produce out of season, generally from either a greenhouse or the other hemisphere, is amazing. Oranges in the winter are the best.)

Steve eating out of a tub of Hagen Daaz and Tony wondering if he's pregnant is hilarious. So funny! Then again, I'm also picturing Steve being like, "Well, one day I was like five four and a hundred pounds soaking wet, and only needed like fifteen hundred Calories a day to keep functioning, considering that my asthma was too bad to let me do much strenuous stuff anyways. And then, the next day, after the Super Soldier Serum, suddenly I'm a foot taller, roughly two hundred pounds mostly muscle, and had no idea how much fuel my body needed to keep running even before taking into account that the serum altered my metabolism from the baseline of a normal man of my new height and weight. I lost ten or fifteen pounds before the doctors figured out that I needed about three rations a day, and I have no idea how many Calories that is, to figure out how much I need to eat when not on military rations" and Tony is like "Fuuuuu-... Steve, how about I introduce you to Chinese takeout now? Somebody, preferably Pepper, please find me the nutritional information of a World War II ration!" (about 3300 Calories, fyi, of which three would be about 10000, about 4 times the 2500 that is often considered average for a typical civilian man, consistent with the "I can't get drunk because my metabolism is four times as fast as a normal person's" line - Steve could do the math in his head, obviously, but not if he didn't know what the docs were saying he needed four times the amount of to start with).

Also, that was very sweet of your first boyfriend. I'm afraid that tea definitely sounds like an acquired taste, all right. I like tea, including milk-tea (though my experience in that area basically runs to bubble tea made with milk tea, and English Breakfast tea with milk and sugar/honey), but salty tea just sounds scary to me. I'm hoping by the time Tony is actually in love, Steve will have caught on to Tony just eating the cheese to make him happy, and offer him something else instead or be like "you eat cheese fondue with me to make me happy, I'll eat sushi with you to make you happy, I can't get sick from raw fish anyways".