cap_ironman | Cap and Iron Man Sequel Movie Speculation Post!

So the Avengers might be the next movie to be out in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (and maaaaan! I am so eager for it) but Iron Man #3 and Captain America #2 have already been set in stone as sure things.

As of now, all we know is that Iron Man #3 is almost certainly going to have the Mandarin as a villain (but then they've been setting him up since way back in Movie #1 with the Ten Rings terrorist outfit) and that Captain America #2 is going to be set in present day with WWII flashbacks only.

But what are you looking forward to seeing in these movies? Any characters you want to see or certain specific story-lines you have in mind? Obviously nothing we discuss is going to have much of an effect on what actually happens, of course, but I thing it's a fun thing to discuss!

+ Iron Man #3

>> Firstly of course, the Mandarin, but the Mandarin as the Knaupfs re-invented him for the DoS run - a ultra-smart businessman, calm instead of prone to fly into rages. Someone who is a concrete threat to Tony.

>> Secondly of course there needs to be an upgrade to Tony's armor. The second movie gave us the Armor-inna-Suitcase so (un)fortunately the only step forward to go, in a way that makes cinematic difference is the Extremis Armor. I really don't want Fraction's 'Bleeding-Edge' crap (it literally makes his invincible if used intelligently and while Fraction may not be smart enough to use it to the full potential, Tony certainly is... Yes, I'm aware that this is a very silly sentence. I will still stick to it. Like glue. :P) just the original Extremis. This means a mild healing factor (only plot related) and the whole internet-in-his-head shtick.

>> Extremis is awesome because this plot-line not only gives us the 'new armor' part for Iron Man Essentials, but also the third thing, the 'Real Villain' aka Tony's issues. After all RDJ might be really really hot, but a young flower he is not. Tony himself is supposed to be something like approaching (or having crossed) 40 in the movie. Perfect time for a bit of a mid-life crisis. Tadah! Extremis!

>> Of course, the Extremis would be a good way to bring in Maya Hansen, again possibly in a mish-mash of the DoS storyline with Maya unknowingly (or knowingly) working with the Mandarin.

+ Captain America #2

>> Well, my first thing is what I don't want. I don't want Winter Soldier in Movie #2. Which is not to say I don't want it, I just want it to be left for the inevitable Movie #3. The whole shock of Bucky coming back etc. is felt much more keenly when there has been time to reflect on his loss. Again not to say, I want the movie to be lacking Bucky. Since the movie is supposed to have quite a few flashbacks, I'm hoping they'll use the flashbacks to build more of a rapport between Steve and Bucky (something sorely missing in Movie #1) and Steve angsting all over about Bucky and Peggy, but no Winter Soldier just yet.

>> Sam Wilson aka The Falcon. TOTALLY want this partnership, although I will scream if Sam Wilson-was-a-thug is used instead of social worker. And of course Sharon. It seems the Agent in his room at the end was Sharon and also that the writers are well aware how inherently creepy Steve/Sharon is on the heels of Steve/Peggy,, so hopefully a better take on it than comics (and Brubaker) managed.

>> Villain could be the Red Skull Returned! or Baron Zemo leading the Hydra. I like both ideas. But I don't really have any ideas with iconic Cap storylines. Hmm...

What are your thoughts?! Agree / Disagree, Storylines you wanna see? (Wow, that almost kind of rhymes.. XP)

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I want to see Devil In The Bottle in the Iron Man 3 movie.

Hmm, but I thought that was what Iron Man 2 was supposed to be inspired by? With all the drinking and self-destructiveness?

I think it was, although that self-destructiveness came more from dying. And now he's no longer dying. Unless that was enough to turn him sober...

Yeah. I'm not sure if I'm remembering this right, but I think Favreau said something to the effect that watching the hero drink himself almost to death is not what the audience is either expecting or wanting to see in a super-hero movie. So they kept the self-destructive behaviour and made it all about 'He's secretly dying of non-existent blood poisoning!' instead.

But I don't think movie!Tony is sober as of now. He's hasn't really had any reasons *to* sober up, as of now. Though I feel movie!Tony is different enough from comics!Tony that the sobriety isn't that intrinsic a part for him anyway. (But of course that's just me. :)

I think it's worth noting that alcoholism isn't identical to using or even abusing alcohol, although there's obviously a large overlap. Movie Tony undoubtedly drinks heavily, but I'm not sure there's evidence he's an alcoholic - when he's working on the Iron Man Mk II, for instance, he stays in the lab for days and doesn't drink anything, and drinking rarely interferes with his life - in Iron Man II his drunken bad behaviour is more connected with his imminent death than the booze.

He's totally drinking in the Avengers teaser, so that solves that. XD

And, yeah, movie!Tony is more Ultimates!Tony than 616!Tony, so I don't think they're going to change that. (Although maybe we can avoid the brain tumor.)

Well... If Demon In The Bottle is not available... I want to see some event that could make Tony Stark change from a drunken playboy in a suit of armor to a heroic Iron Man. Maybe Tony could have the Extremis as well.

I would love, love, love to see Extremis... but I think it's too out there for mainstream audiences.

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