HANK AND JAAAN~ \;A;/ b-by which I mean to say, if you're odd can we be odd together?
But yeah. I get that they're probably not... uh, easy enough to sell? Popular? Currently active in comics canon (Jan is dead atm, right)? but... *sigh* Yeah, still missing them. :'3
Yes let's be odd together :D [holds out hand] And you're right...Jan is currently dead in comics...in both 616 and 1610, so yeeesh. However, I think her EMHs counterpart is rocking it. As for popularity [tilts head] I dunno...I mean to me Hawkeye was originally a B-lister himself, but Marvel managed to market him just fine - and look at him now <3 lol. I think if Marvel pushes enough, they can re-shuffle the selling powers of characters if they so choose...but I'm not sure why they cut Hank and Jan though. I hear supposedly Hank will cameo in the upcoming (sometime) Antman movie which will focus on Scott Lang. Now why Marvel doesn't wish to push Hank considering he gave us Ultron is a mystery, but I'm sure if they want they can always re-imagine him in movie-verse. All I know is 1610!Hank was a !@#$%.
[grabs hand, skips through a field of flower etc.]
Ultimates!Hank, huh... I, uh, have not actually read any Ultimates comics. I leafed through the first issue of Ultimate Avengers once, happened on a page that had Steve being all... mean, went "D':" and flung the comic away. >3>; Also I've heard it gets worse. Haven't actually heard what they made Hank like in that verse. Or maybe I have and blocked it. I'D
But to return to topic. Besides being dead, maybe Jan's powers are part of the problem. Too... campy? (I mean, I love campy but I suppose it might be hard to meld into the style they're going for with this movie verse?). Whereas with Hank, it seems the first or only thing many people remember about him (if anything) is that he hit Jan. And at the end of the day maybe Hank is just simply too obscure/unpopular?
Although, even if they had used the character, I doubt his deeper issues like the mental problems and such would have been brought up, seeing as they already did that Iron Man to some extent. Which I'm mostly ok with since I mostly like the lighter approach they've taken in this movie verse, as long as it doesn't make the character in question seem too flat/overly unsympathetic, which I've been told kind of happens in Iron Man 2 (I've been too scared to watch it to see for myself). But I'm digressing again.
LOL, the one thing I got from reading 1610 is that pretty much everyone is a jerk/ass. The one person who wasn't died and got replaced by a new character so....yeah. I don't read the ultimate line any more. As for Hank in Ultimate verse....you don't want to know. Let's say they took the hitting Jan thing up to 10.
As for Tony...yeah. IM2 had that wierd awkwardness where you just wanna go "oh, Tony..." But, it's not that bad...you should still watch it. He gets better by the end, and in essences you could kind of take the whole thing as Tony's maturing process. He's at the beginning of becoming a hero, and he has a ways to go before he becomes the hero we all know he can be.
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b-by which I mean to say, if you're odd can we be odd together?
But yeah. I get that they're probably not... uh, easy enough to sell? Popular? Currently active in comics canon (Jan is dead atm, right)? but... *sigh* Yeah, still missing them. :'3
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And you're right...Jan is currently dead in comics...in both 616 and 1610, so yeeesh. However, I think her EMHs counterpart is rocking it. As for popularity [tilts head] I dunno...I mean to me Hawkeye was originally a B-lister himself, but Marvel managed to market him just fine - and look at him now <3 lol. I think if Marvel pushes enough, they can re-shuffle the selling powers of characters if they so choose...but I'm not sure why they cut Hank and Jan though.
I hear supposedly Hank will cameo in the upcoming (sometime) Antman movie which will focus on Scott Lang. Now why Marvel doesn't wish to push Hank considering he gave us Ultron is a mystery, but I'm sure if they want they can always re-imagine him in movie-verse. All I know is 1610!Hank was a !@#$%.
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Ultimates!Hank, huh... I, uh, have not actually read any Ultimates comics. I leafed through the first issue of Ultimate Avengers once, happened on a page that had Steve being all... mean, went "D':" and flung the comic away. >3>;
Also I've heard it gets worse. Haven't actually heard what they made Hank like in that verse. Or maybe I have and blocked it. I'DBut to return to topic. Besides being dead, maybe Jan's powers are part of the problem. Too... campy? (I mean, I love campy but I suppose it might be hard to meld into the style they're going for with this movie verse?). Whereas with Hank, it seems the first or only thing many people remember about him (if anything) is that he hit Jan. And at the end of the day maybe Hank is just simply too obscure/unpopular?
Although, even if they had used the character, I doubt his deeper issues like the mental problems and such would have been brought up, seeing as they already did that Iron Man to some extent. Which I'm mostly ok with since I mostly like the lighter approach they've taken in this movie verse, as long as it doesn't make the character in question seem too flat/overly unsympathetic, which I've been told kind of happens in Iron Man 2 (I've been too scared to watch it to see for myself). But I'm digressing again.
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As for Tony...yeah. IM2 had that wierd awkwardness where you just wanna go "oh, Tony..." But, it's not that bad...you should still watch it. He gets better by the end, and in essences you could kind of take the whole thing as Tony's maturing process. He's at the beginning of becoming a hero, and he has a ways to go before he becomes the hero we all know he can be.