ext_237397 ([identity profile] viloki9.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] cap_ironman2008-06-16 08:11 am

I'm going to throw up if this turns out to be true

DiCaprio to Be Captain America?

oh dear god please no....

Reasons why he's not a good Cap:

1) Acting range is: retarded person, pretty boy, crazed person, half-crazed person. Can you even imaging him giving an inspirational 'boyscout' speech without it seeming angry and rant-like?

2) Looks nothing like Steve Rogers. (He doesn't even have the build!)

3) Already a Hollywood big name that will definitely overshadow the character.

For those of us who read Marvel, out of all the movies they make, the one character they CANNOT screw up is Captain America, because with Cap, it's personal...

Discuss, cry, suggest better actors? (Although if you're going to do the suggesting, do us a favor and pleeease make sure you've at least seen a picture of Steve Rogers and you know his characterization, nkay? None of this listing hot boys just for the hell of it nonsense.)

[identity profile] johanirae.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
If Hulk and Iron Man has given us any lessons is to hire actors who can make a movie awesome just be coming dropping in and saying hi.

So basic line, need someone totally cool, because make up would handle the rest of the look a like issues.

So...
*think thinks thinks*

Ai crap, I got nobody. It's just, man, Cap is just too much of a freaking ideal for me to think of anybody in real life who could play him well, dammit O_O

Hmm...maybe...

Heath Ledger (obvious issues aside) would have done a great job, seriously.

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[identity profile] ethnos44.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Should look at least mid-twenty.

But a leader-type.

Handsome, but never GIRLY-LIKE.

Nice young man look in him, but not too naive.

A great actor.


Well, Steve should play himself, cause there's no one like that.


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[identity profile] cruelest-month.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. D:

I refuse to believe he'll end up with the role, but who knows. If he does get it though, Robert Downey, Jr. would literally have to be in pretty much every scene of the movie in order for anyone to convince me to watch it.

As someone else suggested in their comment to that rumor, that Mark Valley guy would work really well. Personally, whether it's right or wrong, I just picture Cap as Val Kilmer.

[identity profile] mneiai.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the two suggestions here ^.^

I love Mark Valley. Like, in a scary, obsessive, see everything he's ever in sort of way. Ditto with Val (oh, the shit I have watched just for him). I think if this was a decade ago, Val would have made a really good Steve, but now he's a bit old.

DiCaprio, even if he bulked up, just doesn't have the build or facial structure to be Captain America. Maybe he could be Bucky haha

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[identity profile] smilingskull.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Mark Valley would be a really good choice, especially since he's got a military background to draw from.

Also, I could be wrong, but for some reason I think Kilmer was attached to a Cap project at one point in the early 90's that never materialized.

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[identity profile] justlikemagic.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
This is as bad as the rumors of Brad Pitt playing Thor *kill me now!*

The only guy I could ever sort of imagine as Cap is James Van Der Beek and that sort of takes some squinting and tilting my head sideways.

[identity profile] axolotl-lan.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Val a few years back as Cap would've been awesome.

Dicaprio... Dicaprio- it is BETTER than Mconheywhatever or hiring Orlando Bloom but um, NO. Just No.

Odds are this is just a rumour anyhow, what'd be NICE is if they scouted good theatre actors with broad builds and the right face shape because even if they get the build slightly off the most important thing is to have -the voice- getting a character with a voice you could believably accept as a leader/symbolic figure would make up for any aesthetic off-puttings for me.

[identity profile] ennui-blue-lite.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Dicaprio lacks the build, look, and presence to pull off Steve Rogers. He's not a bad actor in the right part, but Captain America is definitly NOT the right part for him. Also, he's just too babyfaced.

As for Val Kilmer, he's only five years older than RDJ (who looks older than he is anyway, thanks to 'partyface'), but he'd have to lose quite a lot of weight before squeezing into the Cap's uniform. But, even heavy, I'd take him over Dicaprio any day.

[identity profile] cruelest-month.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
As for Val Kilmer, he's only five years older than RDJ (who looks older than he is anyway, thanks to 'partyface'), but he'd have to lose quite a lot of weight before squeezing into the Cap's uniform. But, even heavy, I'd take him over Dicaprio any day.

I agree. DiCaprio still looks about 14 to me. Val Kilmer (or someone like him) could lose the weight, bulk up a bit, and they could make him look a bit younger. It would be worth it to have someone playing the part who has the ability to pull off Captain America.

[identity profile] damaumbra.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, after watching Ironman and just because, I asked in an insanejournal comunity that especialises in putting faces to characters for roleplaying (find_a_pb) who could be Captain America if Robert Downey Jr was Iron Man, and they sugested Aaron Eckhart. He's older than Cap should be, but I like how he looks (and I personally don't know him from Adam, so he wouldn't overshadow the character)

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I totally wouldn't have thought of Aaron Eckhart, but now that you mention him, he really does have the look! Perfect jawline and I think he'd bulk up well without over over-the-top into the more-muscle-than-brains area.

I actually kind of like that he's older than Cap would be if they stuck closer to the comics. Mostly because I want movieverse Tony/Steve, and if they pick someone who looks 25 for Steve the dynamic really won't work the same way. *g*

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[identity profile] silver-autumn.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, please no. I can't stand DiCaprio...

Me and my best bud were debating who could play Steve and we settled with the fact that the person needs to be an unknown, or someone who isn't wildly famous. I pointed out that RDJ IS Tony Stark and he's famous, but then she pointed out that Hugh Jackman is the perfect Wolverine and he was an unknown before X-Men.

Yea, so an unknown. Someone who is strong, has that jaw, tall... Ok, I'm getting a little excited. Signing off now. :)

[identity profile] helva2260.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Casting always seems to work best when the audience perception of an actor and the character feed into each other and blur to some extent (though there are a few actors who manage to surf a wider range of character). For instance, although it's not the way these things usually work, I'm pretty sure that one of the reasons RDJ works well as Tony Stark is *because* he's well known:

Most superhero stories start with an complete nobody who discovers they have power and have to work out how to balance fame and power, and they work best with complete (or relative) unknowns in the title role. The audience looks at the anonymous geeky kid in school (or the mysterious bar-fighter getting into his van) and is reminded of themselves... And then you build the legend...

But Tony Stark is famous to begin with in his universe - the character has to start out with the natural assumption of power and a background of indulgence. RDJ brings that with him, so from the first second the audience recognises him, their memory of *his* backstory feeds into their perception of Tony Stark's charisma, power, talent and excesses... And then you build the story of a character learning that money can't fix everything (*g* this may be just a little over simplified!)...

But yeah, Steve needs someone who's fairly unknown - and tall please! The idea of DiCaprio makes me cringe, but I've been trying to think up ideas and I just can't: the only guy I can think of with round about the right build is Casper Van Dien, and the idea of him playing Cap makes me shudder even more than Leo. We wants an Intelligent!Cap not a Dim!Cap, yes we does, my precious!... Though actually, having just looked him up on IMDB, he does look more intelligent than I remember from Starship Troopers... Meh! I just don't know!

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[identity profile] duffnstuff.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I reserve judgment until I see press stills, or the movie itself...I would be balking and hurling at the very thought, but I remember being very skeptical of RDJ, Ed Norton and Gwyeneth Paltrow in particular. And I had my ass handed to me all three times.

My current obsession for Cap is Jamie Bamber (http://www.achchicos.com.ar/Jamie-Bamber.jpg). The hair, the jaw, the eyes, the roles in which he seriously bulks up, the acting skills and the presence all work for me...but he's british. This isn't a major issue, but I can already hear the cries of 'CAP ISN'T AN AMERICAN? WAAAAH!'

Still...a girl can dream.....

[identity profile] avidlydelicious.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
OH YES JAMIE BAMBER. *cough* Sorry. I just completely agree. :D

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[identity profile] geuna.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorta hoping when they pick Steve, they'll ultimately pick someone who's a little older that Captain America would be. A good seasoned actor. That would also mean that by the Avengers movie they'll all land in a similar age range, around 30-40 years old.

Now, DiCaprio isn't a hideous actor. He's good, when directed the right way, though he experienced that same curse of being type case for the same type of movie 8 times in, like, a year (that isn't exact, but I'm throwing it out there). But as CAP!? There isn't much in the his acting history that would even imply that he would be good for that role, now would have have the build for it. It's just something they're throwing out there. We're gonna see more and more actors being set up to play Cap, though it'll probably be rumors only.

Oh, and I agree with Damaumbra two comments up! Aaron Eckhart would be great. Have you seen that jaw? That's Captain America's jaw, baby! And he would most likely might a great blond!

[identity profile] damaumbra.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and in one of the pics I saw in his web he was in a trenchcoat and a hat. I was all "Hey, Steve"

[identity profile] crimsonquills.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually have a decent amount of respect for DiCaprio's acting skills, but he just doesn't have the body type to be Cap. No matter how much he bulks up, he's always going to be too slender.

After the awesome job Marvel Studios did with both Iron Man and Incredible Hulk, I actually have a lot of faith that they'll pick the right person to play Steve. This early in the game, it's all rumors, so I'm not going to worry. :-)

[identity profile] gestalt1.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Aaron Eckhart would make a great Cap, IMO. I'd kind of like Val but he's maybe getting a little too old for the role. Mainly I'd like to see him because Val + RDJ = *squeeeeee*...

Brad as Donald Blake - HELLS NO! D:< I could maybe see him as Thor, given a bit a lot of pushing, but Dr. Blake? Nu uh. And re: Triple H wrestlers very rarely make good films.

[identity profile] runenklinge.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I´m for Karl Urban as Thor.
Brad Pitt is too much of a pretty boy to play a decent warrior (Achilles? in your dreams)

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[identity profile] mercy-slays.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here and say, maybe if they do cast DiCapro, that they'll have him be Steve before the SSS. =/ Or he might actually play Bucky. I refuse to think that he'll be in the Avengers movie, but there's a good chance he might be in just "The First Avenger: Captain America" movie.

Well, that's my two cents, on this. >>;

[identity profile] mercy-slays.livejournal.com 2008-06-16 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
...Reading all the comments earlier... I pity my imagination once I watch "The Dark Knight". ;_; I probably won't see Eckhart as Soon-to-be-TwoFace!Harvey Dent but a Soon-to-be-Demented!Steve Rogers, thank you.

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[identity profile] antikidhero.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Probably gonna get flamed for this, but I think DiCaprio is a good actor in general, he might be able to pull it off. RDJ def. did not come to mind when people mentioned Iron Man, and neither did Edward Norton for Hulk. So, who knows.

Better than Matthew McConaughey.

[identity profile] anonymiss731.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
DiCaprio is a great actor but I just can't see him as Cap. Maybe if it was like a really really young Cap. Even then I've never seen him pull off a persona like Captain America. You have to pick a balance of tough guy and patriotic good guy. It's a hard choice. Hell, if they really think he can do it and pick him then I hope he proves all us naysayers wrong.

As for McConaughey I'm iffy there. In Reign of Fire he pulled off the built soldierish type ok so at least body wise and military type wise he fits. And we know he can play the boyscoutish persona so that some balance in a Captain America way.

I've actually agreed with all the good picks made so far. I say good picks because Bana and Affleck were obvious missteps. Lets all hope the Cap movie gives us all a reason to fangirl ^___^

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Bulk up John Barrowman (http://www.techstickle.co.uk/wp-content/photos/john_barrowman.jpg) and dye his hair and you have cap. Seriously, he can act, he has charisma in spades, and he has the jaw.

[identity profile] hothobbit.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Damnit do I love me some John Barrowman! And yes, he's perfect except he's not American :/

And people would be all over Captain America not being American

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[identity profile] hothobbit.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
What about Matt Damon for Captain America? Thoughts?

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Oh, hells yes. I would go for it. He's got that whole adorkable woobie thing going on that would be perfect for early Steve.

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[identity profile] badluck313.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
mmmmmm..... Jensen Ackles is has my vote. he looks vaguely like Cap, but can definitely pull off the leadership aspect and capture Steve's good nature.

[identity profile] ennui-blue-lite.livejournal.com 2008-06-17 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Very sexy man, but he doesn't feel like Steve Rogers to me. Also, I'm pretty sure he'd look terrible with blonde hair.

[identity profile] dadaisticker.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
That would be the disappointment of the CENTURY. I'd like to think I can put a LITTLE bit more faith in Marvel. =[

but on another note, Aaron Eckhart has me SOLD for Cap.

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Is it just me, or is Leonardo DiCaprio kind of, um, short? Also just generally too small to play someone who's supposed to be built like a football linebacker.

It could be worse, though. At least he's not a professional wrestler.

[identity profile] adn-heming.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 11:28 am (UTC)(link)
He's 5'11/6'0 feet. In terms of height, I don't think he's that bad.

I'd personally prefer an unknown, or an actor who isn't as high-profile as DiCaprio, but I'm not averse to him being cast if it turns out he's right for the role.

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[identity profile] feyth.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I doubt it. DiCaprio was originally rumored for Tony, too. Not gonna happen. If it does... well, I don't really like Captain America anyway, so I won't be crushed the way I was about RDJ as Tony. >_>

I've also seen/read rumors that Matt Damon is really pining for the role. After seeing the Bourne movies, I think he'd do a pretty good job.

[identity profile] elspethdixon.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Matt Damon would be good, through he's actually my secret pick for Hawkeye. In the perfect Avengers movie in my head, Matt Damon is Clint and the actress who plays Ziva David on NCIS is Natasha Romanov.

I don't really like Captain America anyway

Really? That's unusual. Most people I've run across like Steve and dislike Tony, not the other way 'round. It explains why you're the only comics-verse Iron Man fan I know who doesn't ship Steve/Tony, though (well, there are a couple of others, but pretty much everyone else I've run across who doesn't ship them doesn't because they don't like slash in general, full stop).

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