Reborn Issue 3 Recap

[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

Seeing as Reborn issue 4 is due out tomorrow (gods help us all), here's your Issue 3 recap!

I apologize in advance for whatever pain is about to be inflicted upon you all.

Comments

[valtyr]

I'm a huge Cap fan, and I dropped this at book two, after trekking across central London in rush hour to get one the day it came out. Hell, I would have kept buying it even if I hated the story, just for a good re-tell of the origin story drawn by Hitch.

I for one am not so much negative as 'eh'. While I hated Cap dying, it was at least treated as the major event it should be, and a lot of the stuff around it was well and powerfully done. We got a full range of reactions, and we saw real painful impacts on the people who loved and respected him, and what his life and his loss meant to them.

His return, on the other hand, is so rushed and sloppy they couldn't even work out how many issues it was going to be until they were part way through, the art is terribly inconsistent, characters carry the idiot ball, and very little seems to happen. As for Tony, well, the same applies to Sam and Fury and Sharon; they've all been huge influences on him, and I'd expect to see more of that, especially as a major issue in why he's lost is because of Tony. There's still time, of course, for some of that.

Cap's death was suitably epic; a hero's death. His return, so far, is half-assed and badly organized. Cap's brief post-death appearance in Thor had more of an impact on me than all of Reborn has so far.

On a separate note, the comm can certainly accommodate more than one set of Reborn recaps - by all means, post and share your glee! You may well convert us to your views. :)

[harmonyangel.livejournal.com]

I'll certainly give you sloppy art, but I've always disliked Hitch. That's why I've been squeeing over The Marvels Project, just for the chance to see some nice Epting art again.

As for the rest, I guess I'm just not seeing what other people are seeing. This does feel epic to me, and well-organized; I have faith that Brubaker knows what he's doing. He's the king of decompression, sure, so you're right that very little happens in each issue, and it's going a bit longer than planned (though I'm sure that change happened pretty early in the writing process, and the marketing is just catching up now -- that's the way comics production timelines work). But I don't think that's necessarily a flaw; it's Brubaker's style, and something I've gotten used to over all the years of reading his Cap. His passion for this project, at least, is clear -- it's not like his abysmal 12-issue X-Men arc that really was stretched out and boring and had nothing happening.

[valtyr]

See, I actually like Hitch. I was delighted when I heard he was doing it, although I like Epting too. (My favourite Steve is Cho's in New Avengers.) But Hitch, by all accounts, works slow. For this, especially if it's going to be a hook to draw in new readers, they should have given him the time he needed.

Also, honestly, the slow and convoluted plot is no way to hook new readers. Just... we're half way through the story, and I have no real idea what's going on. I guess it's just a matter of taste, then.

Oh, I think maybe I know why it's meh-ing me to such an extent - I like active protagonists, and this seems to have very passive protagonists. Cap is literally unable to act. I got all excited when Steve left a message with Vision, because he was actually doing something! And the present-day protagonists seem very reactive, they don't seem to have much of a plan, they just respond. (I'm hoping Sharon has turned herself in as part of a Cunning Plan; in that case, I will rescind a couple of criticisms. Even if that is the case, she should have kept the others informed.)

alas, it's time for us to roll up our sleeves and Do Our Part!

[hohaiyee.livejournal.com]

We have lovely writers and artists in this comm, how about about we do our very own Reborn?

Tony can be included via Steve dreaming.

I've just finished reading Neil Gaiman's Book of Magic, and I just love the concept of Reborn.

...and, considering alternate timelines...he could travel to alternate endings?

If this is in Steve's head, or a reality projected by Steve's head, then stuff that didn't actually happen

...with the end lesson being that Steve believes in himself,and that Steve believes that Tony believes in him.

Definitely lots of Bucky, which, back then, was very different than the Winter Soldier of today, or Captain Bucky, so it is like that Bucky did die on that plane after all.

Re: alas, it's time for us to roll up our sleeves and Do Our Part!

[morgulq.livejournal.com]

Oh, Neil Gaiman. I am utterly convinced that all comic universes are subsections of The Dreaming...which allows for all characterisation and the sliding timescales.

*hearts the Gaiman*

Re: alas, it's time for us to roll up our sleeves and Do Our Part!

[hohaiyee.livejournal.com]

Did you know? Apparently, one time at least, Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore goes drinking together! How did the bar not float off its hinges from so much awesomeness?

The full story was, that Moore was telling Gaiman a story so gruesome or scary, Gaiman has to go outside and throw up. Makes me wonder what that story is...


Book of Magic was gorgeous, it was such a beautiful journey, that throughout I keep dreading that the ending would be a let down, but it was perfect.