Death of the Dream, NC-17, non-con

[valtyr]

The discussion about Evil Steve reminded me of a fic I wrote a while ago and never posted to the comm.

Title: Death of the Dream
Author: valtyr
Beta: None
Rating: NC-17
Wordcount: 2k
Contents/Warnings/Spoilers: Explicit rape.
Summary: Steve comes back from the dead. Tony's not as happy to see him as he thought he'd be.

Read on AO3. Not kidding about the rape.

If you wrote a dark/evil Steve, maybe link the story in the comments? Would be interesting to see people's takes.

Comments

[chaos-anomaly.livejournal.com]

First of all, that hurt. That extremely hurt and in a way, I can terribly see Steve turning out that way. He's insane but he's justifiably insane. There's good rationalization for everything he did, god knows that I would do the same thing if I was in his shoes.

I'm going to have to semi-agree that it doesn't quite hit Non-Con, but it's not exactly Dub-Con either. When I think of Non-Con, I feel of full on protest and fighting back, arms flailing, feet kicking and the mouths blazing. But, Tony is immediately gagged and well, it's Steve.

Captain America being Bad? Steve Rogers being evil. It's shocking enough that I can see Tony just not fighting as hard as he should because it's Steve (who is not dead, who is alive, and oh god, it's Steve and he's here and he'll fix things).

But I'm not going to say it's completely Dub-Con, either since Tony wasn't really accepting it. I must say, you certainly gotten the line blurred.

Anyway, is it bad I want to see more of this Steve? But that's probably the psychologist in me talking and I probably should stop now before I make this comment any longer. ^^;

[muccamukk]

Oh, wow. That was creepy as all fuck! Gah!

-flails incoherently-

Steve has so clearly lost his everliving mind. I bet there's not too many objections to him retiring. Having him so focused on... whatever the hell, that he just pins Tony down and rapes him, even though he's in no way consenting. Gah!

Also: GAH!

[adrian-chan.livejournal.com]

Oh, damn.

Um, yeah, that's pretty much all I've got.

[tsukinofaerii.livejournal.com]

D: D: D: SO MUCH D: This is beautiful, in that broken, sick sort of way where you want to stop reading, but can't because it hurts too much. Tony's going to be so torn up. Tthat whole situation's just a mind screw on top of the rape. (hugs Tony tight)

[arysteia.livejournal.com]

Well written, moving, realistic and horrifying. But wow, am I in shock now that there are readers who think it wasn't rape. Holy crap. Wow. The gag and the fact Steve didn't beat Tony made it only dub-con. Oh, and it's like Gone with the Wind. I'm glad nothing's changed since the Civil War. Or the 1930s. Whichever attitude is prevailing there. D: D: D:

[red-savage.livejournal.com]

Holy cow! That was *intense*. It's amazing what can happen when a character has enough rope to hang themselves with it and yet you made me feel *terrible* for both of them. Truly horrifying what the best intentions can lead to.

Good job V!

[silver-autumn.livejournal.com]

Did I start an Evil!Steve movement? heh.

This was wonderful..I mean-it was dark and disturbing but I feel like this was a great response to my question. The reasons you gave for him losing his mind were plausible. Being stuck in time and reliving events over and over again. Pair that with years of longing for Tony and VOILA! Instant Evil!Steve!

But really, this was well written and a dark treat. I kinda want to ask you if you plan on adding a sequel..?

[illuminatius.livejournal.com]

I might have missed a detail or two, but this didn't strike me as an explicit rape fic. I mean, it's clearly non-con, but I don't get any explicit vibes. Huh.

Anyways. This fic freaked me out - if Steve snaps, it won't be pretty.

[strzyga.livejournal.com]

this was beautifully creepy. i very nearly didn't read it -- i tend to avoid rape fics like i would the plague -- but i love your writing so i gave it a shot anyway. god damn. twisted, disturbing, and yet strangely compelling lol.


also in my mind dub-con has always been defined as sex that was not wanted but was enjoyed, so i can see where the confusion might come in. and yet the definition of rape is that the person, ah, receiving didn't give consent, so. it is very clearly rape. just adding my two cents, lol, for the hell of it. /shrug

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

It's clear that Steve rapes Tony. But this is Tony. And Steve. Who are frickin' idiots whose issues have issues. The built up sexual tension, the past, the anger, the betrayal, their crazy lives -- all work to create a sense of murky and layered emotions during the rape.

I love that Steve's snapped but he's still Steve. He killed the bad guys. The shield in Bucky's hands -- I took that as America is safe. He still did his job. Now he's going to disappear.

I wish you would continue; if only because I want to see just how dysfunctional their situation becomes. It screams Master/Slave. It could get *wicked* dark and perverse. I don't know if you want to go there -- but if you do, I will definitely read it.

[cosmic-quest.livejournal.com]

I tend to avoid rape fics but I couldn't resist one of your stories and the idea of Evil!Steve. And what a dark, twisted read this was. It's not a story that a person can say they enjoyed but it was a worthy story about the things a person can do when their mind snaps.

And, to me, this is very much a rape story. Steve may be our good old boy but in this story, he definitely raped Tony, who clearly did not want that to happen and was left traumatised in the aftermath. Yes, he did not fight much but this was because he was shocked by what was happening and knew it was pointless to fight his 'best friend' was is considerably stronger than he is.

[nimmenstjer.livejournal.com]

That was sick. Sicksicksicksicksick. Very well written. I'm kind of torn between puking or crying now. (Not that I'm going to do either, except maybe the crying, but, you know, just that feeling.)

I hate rape. This was rape alright. And you kept it in character, in so far as I can tell. Seriously. Well written. Tony's... well, I'm not quite sure how much unbroken pieces are left of that man.
Ugh.
I don't think I'll be reading this story again.

I mean to compliment you. I might fail in this, because currently my emotions are fairly negative.