Cap_Ironman Weekly News, Week Ending 17 October 2010

[muccamukk]

Hello and welcome to the weekly cap_ironman/cap_ironman newsletter.

As noted in comments of the last newsletter, a few Cap and IM announcements came out of NYCC last week. Two new minis for Steve: Astonishing Captain America by Andy Diggle and Adi Granov in July 2011, and Ultimate Captain America with Jason Aaron and Ron Garney in February 2011. If you're into the X-Books, James Asmus is writing a three-part annual crossover between Steve Rogers: Super Soldier, Namor: The First Mutant and Uncanny X-Men

Also, Invincible Iron Man is renumbering as of January, and Matt Fraction mentioned some details about what will be in Iron Man #500.

Only Steve or Tony comic out this week is the final issue of Ed Brubaker's Steve Rogers: Super Soldier. Preview for that here.


jazzypom wrote two short fics on LJ and on DW.
manic_intent wrote four new parts of The Tower of Yesterday 6-7 and 8-9

cat_13145 was looking for and found a fic.
fictivore posted a discussion question about the Execute Program arc.
fancy_galloway is looking for fic recs for Steve/Tony that isn't on this comm or in the comm archive.


Finally, if you're a new or recent member, hello and welcome! Our rules are here, and in the profile; this includes our warnings policy, so please read. If you're interested in the ship, you may want to read the Ship Manifesto, and consult the list of Slashy Moments (Now at one hundred and fifty moments). If you're planning to write for the comm, there are some tips on writing the pairing here, and the Avengers in general here; if you're having trouble finding a beta, or would like to offer your services as a beta, our beta list is here. If you're looking for the comm archive, it's Tales of Suspense, and it's automated - you can create an account and upload your fic. if you have any questions, you can comment here or PM a mod, that's me, garrideb and valtyr.

And feel free to post on-topic or off-topic stuff in the comments to this post! Just keep it reasonably safe for work, please. :)

Comments

So Iron Man is going back to 500

[jazzypom.livejournal.com]

and Larroca and Chaykin are doing pencils? Ick. The story for issue 500 sounds interesting, but not that interesting.

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[ewanspotter.livejournal.com]

Re: Larroca.

I am so tired of Tony looking like Sawyer from Lost. (And Pepper = Nicole Kidman, for that matter.)

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[penumbren]

so tired of Tony looking like Sawyer from Lost
^^
THIS. I'm still in the early 1980s in my timeline-driven read-through, and current Tony looks like crap in his own book. Avengers draws him better, and that's... saying something. -.o

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[ewanspotter.livejournal.com]

The photorealism, especially when clearly based on someone famous, just throws me out of it. I'll take any Tony over that Tony. (I do enjoy me some Extremis Tony though.)

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[penumbren]

*nod* Exactly. I posted up pics of Tony, Steve, Noir!Tony, Pre-SSS!Steve, and "Noir"!Steve, and the one for Tony... ew. Just ew.

And... can't argue with you over Extremis!Tony. :D

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[ewanspotter.livejournal.com]

Oh, what post was this?

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[penumbren]

Ah, sorry. My "cast list" for my reverse bang. It's on my LJ from yesterday... here. For comparison, mainly.

I didn't really want to go digging through *mumble* issues of Iron Man, so I settled for the first fairly decent recent picture of Tony. And I still don't like it. (The pic of him smirking at Noh Varr from Avengers #2? Awesome. IIM in general? *sigh*)

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[ewanspotter.livejournal.com]

I just realized, IIM Tony has brown eyes. I suppose they did it to match RDJ, but with so much character history, that just seems silly.

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[penumbren]

Yep. It's one of the things that bugs me about the artwork, actually.

Re: So Iron Man is going back to 500

[muccamukk]

ha. I thought of you.

[fictivore.livejournal.com]

Umm... What is the significance of #500 title, btw? And how does that numbering work?

Also, is it just me or is anyone else a bit... wary of what Resilient's 'shocking twist' is going to be? Though Tony interacting with Peter without knowing his identity sounds interesting... And Howard Stark seems to be quite popular what with the Brotherhood of SHIELD and now a new mini...

[muccamukk]

Numbering. Okay. It used to be that numbering started at one, and every time they had a new issue, it would increase by one. If the series got cancelled, and started up again some years later, the numbering would restart. Sometimes, the numbering would transfer over to a new title, for example Tales of Suspense started as a pulp book with two unconnected short stories in every issue, then was Iron Man with a plup back up, then was split between Iron Man and Captain America, with each getting half the book. When they each got their own book, Captain America kept the numbering. So you had Tales of Suspense 1-99, then Captain America 100-454, while Iron Man started over again with #1. Which could get a bit confusing, but was mostly pretty easy to keep track of.

Then we hit the '90s. Comics were weird in the '90s. Marvel decided that it wanted to reboot the universes, so they abandoned the old numbering, and started everything over again at #1. Unfortunately for all comics readers in 1996, the reboot universe pretty much sucked, so that only lasted 13 issues, then they rebooted it again moving everything back to the main continuity, but again restarting the numbering. So you have Captain America Vol 1 100-454, Captain America Vol 2 1-13 and Captain America Vol 3 1-50.

Since then, every time the series undergoes a major change, or rebranding, they restart the numbering to indicate that this is a good place for new readers to jump on. Which got us Captain America Vol 4 1-32 when they decided to go dark and gritty after 11/9. Then, after the big Avengers Disassembled event, they restarted all the numbering again thus Brubaker's Captain America Vol 5 1-50.

Still with me? So that's how the numbering used to work, and still does to some extent. You'll note that New Avengers restarted the numbering at 1 for the start of the Heroic Age. While over in Daredevil they're changing the title from Daredevil to Black Panther: Man Without Fear while maintaining the old numbering to indicate that it's still the same series.

Which brings us to the thing where they go back to the old numbering. Of the big two, Marvel is the younger company. Sure, they own properties from the Golden Age, like Cap, but they were originally published under another name (Timely Comics). DC has comics that have been published continually in one form or another since the '40s. I've always figured Marvel felt a little sore that their flagship titles only hit about 22, when DC had Detective Comics #827. So, in the last few years, every time Marvel sees a chance to, by adding all the volumes together, come up with a number with lots of big shiny zeroes after it, they've gone back to the old numbering. We had Captain America Vol 1 #600 and Daredevil Vol 1 #500 last year, and X-Factor #200 last winter. I think the idea is to provide a sense of legacy and show that these are the same characters you loved when you were young.

The big number issues tend to have special features, more stories and reprints of old comics.

Whew!

I'm always a bit wary of shocking twists, though not in this case, as I'm not following the title.

Ah, Howard. As mentioned on my DW, I'm getting a little sick of Howard. I would like to read about Maria for a change.

[fictivore.livejournal.com]

Oh thank you for such an awesome explanation! Eh. sounds weird logic though... I thought maybe the change in number was going to mean some event or new continuity or something... Especially since there was also something about 'a future'... With 70 year old Tony... and Tony's son... and grand-daughter... DDD:

(Personally, I've always been convinced that the only reason Tony has avoided a paternity suit even after years of carousing is cause after the first such scare back in college-days, he had a 'little something' done to his tubes... His lawyers were very happy)

Hmm... Though hasn't the Avengers' ongoing time-travel adventure shown that Tony's gonna be a spritely and active 100+ year old Iron Man?

And I totally agree about Maria Stark! More about her would be awesome... (Maybe, something will inspire you to write that fic? *hopeful*) Would be especially interesting since Howard has been almost exclusively set up an a massive asshole... But also quite competent (Also an agent in a morally dubious organisation as a partner to Agent Nathaniel Richards, btw o.O)... So would be really really hot to see a Maria able to be an under-handed with him... Though hopefully she was somewhat nice... Tony deserves atleast one parent who gave a shit about him...

[muccamukk]

It's not unusual to have future AUs thrown in either as a fun aside or as foreshadowing. There'll probably be a regular Stark Resilient storyline in there too.

That's just one possible future, which I think they're trying to make sure doesn't happen. Have you seen Next Avengers? It's super cute and has some great Tony angst.

[fictivore.livejournal.com]

Oh my gods! I had no knowledge of that thing but I just searched it on wiki... And those are the kids Tony is leading in the Avengers' time travel adventure!! Plus the villain has already been implied to be Ultron! Is it going to be based on the Next Avengers then?! Wow... *running off to see*

[muccamukk]

Yes. Bendis wanted to do a crossover with Next Avengers since his daughter made him watch it. Or something to that effect. I keep meaning to write fic, but haven't got to it.

[heworedecadence.livejournal.com]

Actually, this week Carnage #1 comes out and that whole book is an Iron Man/Spider-Man team up. Tony is on the preview pages.

It looks pretty good.

[muccamukk]

Oh, thanks. I didn't look at that one as I don't follow the Spider books that closely, so I missed Tony. Yay! Tony!

[dieewigenacht.livejournal.com]

The comm has been kind of...empty lately.

[muccamukk]

Well, I for one am busy writing my reverse bang. I expect a lot of people are doing the same. They'll start going up next week.

[dieewigenacht.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, the bang. I forgot about it XD.

[dieewigenacht.livejournal.com]

Also, this image: http://media.comics.ign.com/media/142/14238060/img_8095474.html
Someone's looking a bit chubby here...that's cute.

[savemoony.livejournal.com]

Re: 500 -- Beth better be the mother. That's all I'm saying.

[muccamukk]

I suppose Steve is a bit much to hope for. Given the author, I wouldn't put money on Beth though.

[penumbren]

*dies laughing* Now I have this little scene in my head: "But... but... Tony, you said it was SAFE! How could this HAPPEN??" followed by Tony trying to logically explain and hide his inner freak-out from his overprotective partner.

[muccamukk]

You should write it. I don't think I've read any MPreg where Steve is the one knocked up.

[penumbren]

That's about as far as I could go with it - mpreg is fairly squicky for me. Although if anyone wants that little bunny, it's definitely looking for a good home. :)

[valtyr]

I have a couple outlines. One is Ults, and exists mostly for people to shout at each other and for Tony to make bad jokes. One is a far-future IN SPACE where Steve is old-fashioned and will have none of these artificial mechanical wombs, and insists on growing a uterus and gestating a child the old-fashioned way.

[ewanspotter.livejournal.com]

One is a far-future IN SPACE where Steve is old-fashioned and will have none of these artificial mechanical wombs, and insists on growing a uterus and gestating a child the old-fashioned way.

I need to be reading this like right now.

Oh, Steve. So traditional.

[valtyr]

Tony is deeply affronted that Steve doesn't trust modern technology. That's like not trusting Tony. He's convinced internal gestation is some quackery out of the dark ages, like cupping and crystal therapy.

[ewanspotter.livejournal.com]

I don't even want to *think* about Steve's feelings on breast feeding.

[penumbren]

I second this thought.

[valtyr]

Fraction doesn't read back canon, so he may not know who Bethany is. So the mother is likely someone from Fraction's canon? I would read Maria and Tony's baby-having hijinks. I mean, assuming Fraction wasn't writing it and Larocca wasn't drawing it. Oh, no then.