With the whole Rhodey (so where's the black girl?) and Stark's dad being alive thing. I'll just consider this 1616 canon, and even then, it's dodgy cannon. But if it gets the children to read the comics, and expands the character to a younger audience, that's good, I guess? I have a fear that the comic book will die out when us older folk do.
I'm rather torn, because there's already going to be a new Avengers cartoon (with Ironman as the leader. LOL! I love Stark, but him leading over Captain America? Hahahahahahahaha.... no), and I really don't want Stark to be over exposed. Another reason why I'm rather stink eye at this cartoon is the whole Mandarin thing, because Mandarin is powerful, and boy! Stark taking him on? No.
But I'm glad that there's some Daddy issues in this cartoon. Stark wouldn't be Stark without said issues, you know?
I'm in my early twenties for now, and I prefer the original Star Trek over all spin-offs, I adore Bob Dylan, and if I have godchildren or some such I will totally send them stuff like Marvel Adventures for Christmas.
As long as stuff are still being re-run, they won't die, and then there is the fact that geek is a subculture now, there are subcultures, there are geek parents who are friends who watches sci-fi with their children instead of (or in addition to) football. Did American Football die out when the first fans did, even though it's a supposed manly sport with more chest padding than a junior high prom?
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I thought making Iron Man the leader of the Avengers was pretty conceivable. I mean, first of all, this is quite blatently made to tie into the film canon and so far things seem to indicate that it will essentially be Tony Stark's team (Fury approached HIM and then Stark sought out Bruce Banner).
Also, in the comics it always seemed to me that Tony was the one pulling the strings anyway. Cap may have been the field leader, but as long as Stark kept signing the cheques, the team was essentially his.
Commenting just on the title of your post: in no way is this as good as that verse. I was hoping they'd adapt that into a cartoon because it would of been 1000000% better. The only similarity is that they're kids and he has the armor. Similarities end there. Hokeyness begins from there on out.
Stark's dad being alive thing I read in a summary once that Tony´s parents die...Howard´ll probably be a role model for young Tony (what would my father have done? I miss you, daddy....you promised to always be there for me...why am I suddenly reminded of Simba and Mufasa?) Also, with Tony screaming at 0:44..he´s going to die
because there's already going to be a new Avengers cartoon I saw the trailer! I wanted to post it, but I can´t find it anymore on youtube...all I get are those fake movie trailers that are clipped together from already existing Marvel movies -.-
Stark wouldn't be Stark without said issues, you know? butI think it will probably more issues like in the movie with his das as a role model...and not as a cold guy who sent his "wimp of a son" toa boarding school
Daddy Stark is "alive"?! With the "DAAAAAAAAAAAAD" scream from 0:44....the "my dad always wantED"....and that I read that Tony´s parents are both dead.....Howard´ll die so that Tony can have his daddy-issues
Arc reactor?! WTF!?!? I may be mistaken, but they sneakily wrote the reactor even in the MA verse. In the "date" issue (I believe it was 28) you can see it under Tony´s shirt and I´m positively sure that it hadn´t been there when the series started. Sadly I don´t have prove here in form of a shirtless Tony I can show you, but he was not equipped with an reactor at first. It´s a modern breastplate, much cooler and worked in the movie, so they´re putting it everywhere
Well someone has been reading too much Ultimate Iron Man, me thinks.
No, I kid. The animation is pretty good, and, well, yay for new market, but I'll always be doubtful of teen!clean-shaved!Tony. Because that's just wrong. (And what would Tony be without him sleeping his way through the Marvel universe?!)
but I'll always be doubtful of teen!clean-shaved!Tony that´s the first (and admittedly most important) bone I´ve had to pick with that. Stark does not exist without his beard....he always goes undercover when he gets rid of it. Stark= stache/goatee He loves the beard
I dearly hope the new Avengers cartoon is radically different I saw the trailer...at least that looks better! I can´t find it anymore on youtube, but it was really good....except that they drew the armor in a strange way and put a lot of emphasis on Tony
...America, I could've sworn we'd had the talk about attempting to capture the youth market with a generic, badly-made, badly-written, anime knockoff, i.e. that you shouldn't, because it results in...well, among other things, in creating a generic teen hero who has none of the character traits that make Tony Stark memorable. (Characterization: learn you some.) Man, I could do better than this!
Man, I could do better than this no need for your italic, I´m sure you could do better. In fact I trust every faithful member of our comm to be able to do better than that
I also saw the first episode of this on the Iron Man dvd. This looks like a cold POS.
Kid!Tony just doesn't work for me... he doesn't have enough life experience to make the Iron Man gesture believable if he's just some kid with some toys.
Marvel. X-Men Evolution was horrible. This is also going to be horrible. Stop it!
Stop it! as long as they´re getting money from innocent kids who don´t know any better?never!
Just try to think of a future when in ten years Bruce Wayne´s parents will be shot after watching the Pokemon movie with him (yes, I stole that from a webcomic...which was awesome), the whole Marvelverse will consist of Wolverine, Spiderman and a couple of unimportant extras and when someone mentions Captain America they will think of James Barnes with a machine gun (no offense against James...I´m just a Steve fan)
he doesn't have enough life experience to make the Iron Man gesture believable like being a weaponsmanufacturer, traveling to a war location, nearly dieing by a shrapnel in his heart, company stress, drinking...
I just realized that he´s basically an anime magical girl who balances her new superheroic life with new powers and a flashy transformation sequence with her school life, good grades...and her love life. Tony Stark is Sailor Moon/Wedding Pech/DoReMi/Pretty Cure/....
Oh, man, I don't know. I try to give new things a chance, I really do, but out of all the old-school Marvel superheroes out there, Iron Man seems like the worst possible candidate for a kid-friendly reboot. Pretty much everything that makes the character interesting depends on him being an adult, with an adult's flaws and problems.
This clip looks and sounds as if somebody stuck Spider-Man into Iron Man's armor, which is just wrong...
worst possible candidate for a kid-friendly reboot what do you mean? the weapons manufacturerr part? the nearly dying from your own weapon in a warzone part? the drinking, business and the women stories?
Spider-Man into Iron Man's armor why am I now envisioning a scene with Tony standing in his father´s bureau, holding the Ironman helmet in his hand, gazing at the city and muttering "From great power comes great responsibility....my dad used to say that"...? + he has a redhaired girlfriend
That trailer was pretty fun, but I saw part of the episode they shipped in the DVD set and it was eye-gouging. I couldn't hack it and turned it off.
Anyway, Tony's backstory is a big part of the appeal for me, so Teen!Tony gives me the meh. If I wanted to read about a totally different person, I'd slog through Ulimate Iron Man. Which nothing on earth can make me do.
(Wow, bitch, bitch, bitch. ;) I should mind my manners and thank you for posting the clip. I did enjoy watching it. :D)
The fact that Tony Stark is so young however, just makes everything that much more disturbing. Spiderman can't help but have the power he have, and after Uncle Ben, what he does is therapeutic.
Here, we have a child soldier...why isn't Howard doing something about this? His son doesn't have any superpowers and can and should live a normal life for now.
why isn't Howard doing something about this? he´s dead? I´m pretty sure that he dies, because of a) "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!" scream at 0:44 b) "what my wantED to do" c) and I read somewhere that Tony has now to shoulder the weight of the company alone without his parents d) and Tony needs daddy issues
This is more Orson Scott Card's Ultimate iron man than 616 one
I'm rather torn, because there's already going to be a new Avengers cartoon (with Ironman as the leader. LOL! I love Stark, but him leading over Captain America? Hahahahahahahaha.... no), and I really don't want Stark to be over exposed. Another reason why I'm rather stink eye at this cartoon is the whole Mandarin thing, because Mandarin is powerful, and boy! Stark taking him on? No.
But I'm glad that there's some Daddy issues in this cartoon. Stark wouldn't be Stark without said issues, you know?
I mean *canon*
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I'm in my early twenties
for now, and I prefer the original Star Trek over all spin-offs, I adore Bob Dylan, and if I have godchildren or some such I will totally send them stuff like Marvel Adventures for Christmas.As long as stuff are still being re-run, they won't die, and then there is the fact that geek is a subculture now, there are subcultures, there are geek parents who are friends who watches sci-fi with their children instead of (or in addition to) football. Did American Football die out when the first fans did, even though it's a supposed manly sport with more chest padding than a junior high prom?
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Also, in the comics it always seemed to me that Tony was the one pulling the strings anyway. Cap may have been the field leader, but as long as Stark kept signing the cheques, the team was essentially his.
That said, the Iron Man cartoon still sucks.
I think it's a joint leadership, sometimes involving Wasp or Storm
Yeah
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I hear you, but I didn't like Card's verse much
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I read in a summary once that Tony´s parents die...Howard´ll probably be a role model for young Tony (what would my father have done? I miss you, daddy....you promised to always be there for me...why am I suddenly reminded of Simba and Mufasa?)
Also, with Tony screaming at 0:44..he´s going to die
because there's already going to be a new Avengers cartoon
I saw the trailer! I wanted to post it, but I can´t find it anymore on youtube...all I get are those fake movie trailers that are clipped together from already existing Marvel movies -.-
Stark wouldn't be Stark without said issues, you know?
butI think it will probably more issues like in the movie with his das as a role model...and not as a cold guy who sent his "wimp of a son" toa boarding school
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Oh, FFS
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Teenage!Tony?! And wtf Mandarin!?
Daddy Stark is "alive"?! Arc reactor?! WTF!?!?
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...and now Tony Stark is Batman!
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With the "DAAAAAAAAAAAAD" scream from 0:44....the "my dad always wantED"....and that I read that Tony´s parents are both dead.....Howard´ll die so that Tony can have his daddy-issues
Arc reactor?! WTF!?!?
I may be mistaken, but they sneakily wrote the reactor even in the MA verse. In the "date" issue (I believe it was 28) you can see it under Tony´s shirt and I´m positively sure that it hadn´t been there when the series started. Sadly I don´t have prove here in form of a shirtless Tony I can show you, but he was not equipped with an reactor at first.
It´s a modern breastplate, much cooler and worked in the movie, so they´re putting it everywhere
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Well someone has been reading too much Ultimate Iron Man, me thinks.
No, I kid. The animation is pretty good, and, well, yay for new market, but I'll always be doubtful of teen!clean-shaved!Tony. Because that's just wrong. (And what would Tony be without him sleeping his way through the Marvel universe?!)
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that´s the first (and admittedly most important) bone I´ve had to pick with that. Stark does not exist without his beard....he always goes undercover when he gets rid of it.
Stark= stache/goatee
He loves the beard
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It was unwatchable. Absolutely painful. So bad, in fact, that I turned it off and watched the old school cartoon. It was THAT bad.
I dearly hope the new Avengers cartoon is radically different >
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I saw the trailer...at least that looks better! I can´t find it anymore on youtube, but it was really good....except that they drew the armor in a strange way and put a lot of emphasis on Tony
found it!
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Five minutes was all I could take. SO.SO.BAD.
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no need for your italic, I´m sure you could do better. In fact I trust every faithful member of our comm to be able to do better than that
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Kid!Tony just doesn't work for me... he doesn't have enough life experience to make the Iron Man gesture believable if he's just some kid with some toys.
Marvel. X-Men Evolution was horrible. This is also going to be horrible. Stop it!
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as long as they´re getting money from innocent kids who don´t know any better?never!
Just try to think of a future when in ten years Bruce Wayne´s parents will be shot after watching the Pokemon movie with him (yes, I stole that from a webcomic...which was awesome), the whole Marvelverse will consist of Wolverine, Spiderman and a couple of unimportant extras
and when someone mentions Captain America they will think of James Barnes with a machine gun (no offense against James...I´m just a Steve fan)
he doesn't have enough life experience to make the Iron Man gesture believable
like being a weaponsmanufacturer, traveling to a war location, nearly dieing by a shrapnel in his heart, company stress, drinking...
I just realized that he´s basically an anime magical girl who balances her new superheroic life with new powers and a flashy transformation sequence with her school life, good grades...and her love life.
Tony Stark is Sailor Moon/Wedding Pech/DoReMi/Pretty Cure/....
I apologize...it´s after 2:30 am here
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This clip looks and sounds as if somebody stuck Spider-Man into Iron Man's armor, which is just wrong...
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what do you mean?
the weapons manufacturerr part? the nearly dying from your own weapon in a warzone part? the drinking, business and the women stories?
Spider-Man into Iron Man's armor
why am I now envisioning a scene with Tony standing in his father´s bureau, holding the Ironman helmet in his hand, gazing at the city and muttering "From great power comes great responsibility....my dad used to say that"...?
+ he has a redhaired girlfriend
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Anyway, Tony's backstory is a big part of the appeal for me, so Teen!Tony gives me the meh. If I wanted to read about a totally different person, I'd slog through Ulimate Iron Man. Which nothing on earth can make me do.
(Wow, bitch, bitch, bitch. ;) I should mind my manners and thank you for posting the clip. I did enjoy watching it. :D)
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(I credit you in the comments and I credit you here. Thank you! :D)
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I´m glad you liked the icon and when you need some more, just grab them^^
Well, Howard Stark is sure a DILF in this one
Here, we have a child soldier...why isn't Howard doing something about this? His son doesn't have any superpowers and can and should live a normal life for now.
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he´s dead?
I´m pretty sure that he dies, because of
a) "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!" scream at 0:44
b) "what my wantED to do"
c) and I read somewhere that Tony has now to shoulder the weight of the company alone without his parents
d) and Tony needs daddy issues
what´s a "dilf"?
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It hurts to look at....
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Also, is this supposed to be a movie, or a tv series of some sort?
TV series , I think
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